I hope eggs start showing up for you soon! Can only cross my fingers with Danger, he’s not the brightest boy, lol.
Celia has been started on her antibiotics, will keep everyone updated on how she does.
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Well, after her first antibiotic, Celia is already seeming much calmer.
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Lol me too! Victory is going for another season of having two prelay sheds, assuming she’ll lay at all. She shed 24 April, shows no sign of laying. Today is day 10 post-shed for Aria, who’s huge and has been prowling extensively for the past week. I don’t think she’ll go much longer. Dazzler shed a couple days ago, Sunlight should shed soon. So I am still waiting. Sigh.
Best of luck to Danger, lol.
That’s excellent news!! I do hope that Celia is back to her sweet self and in good health very soon.
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Goodness, got your hands full! Thanks for the well-wishes.
Bit of an update, just got a call back from the vet. Looks like we’ve got (forgive me if I’m incorrect in any of these) but Proteus, Klebsiella, and Salmonella in her culture. Basically continue treatment, and hope it keeps everything in check long enough for her body to deal with the suture material.
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Poor Celia. How is she feeling? She’s such a champ, I’m really cheering for her to have a speedy recovery. Iknow you’ll take excellent care of your precious girl. What does the vet expect to happen about the suture material?
PS - Aria is finally laying, which is very exciting!!
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She seems to be feeling less restless, she’s not constantly trying to escape the enclosure now. I’m sure she’s entirely displeased to have me stabbing her every three days again. Vet is not sure what to expect, as there aren’t really any studies about the breakdown of dissolvable sutures in reptiles. The hope is the antibiotics kick the infection out long enough for her body to break down the remaining suture material. If that doesn’t happen, we’ll revisit the problem. Not ideal, but at least I like this clinic and they’ve been pretty darn good with her.
Congrats! I hope everything goes smoothly and you end up with a lovely clutch of eggs and healthy mama.
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Big update: CELIA ATE!!! Oh my gosh, I have been waiting for this because now I know she’s headed in the right direction. Huge relief after everything.
As for everyone else, I’m doing a bit of an experiment with Danger. Putting him in with a different female to test whether he’s infertile or just picky.
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Hooray for Celia! That’s AWESOME!! 
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Hopefully Danger is just in need of just the right girl. I’ve seen mate preference with mine.
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I’m hoping this is it, but right now it’s looking like he may be sterile. He wants to breed, he makes the moves, he just doesn’t finish the job.
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Alas. How old is Danger? Maybe next year he’ll get it all together. I think I recall that he is a “young” 3YO, like a late season 2020 hatchling? Maybe he’s just a slow starter. I tried pairing Allstar last year as a 2yo. As you put succinctly put it, he made the moves, but nothing happened. This year, he figured it out pretty quickly and now has fertile eggs in incubation. Not that being 2yo is necessarily a deterrent to successfully siring a clutch, but it can be an extra challenge.
Even it’s its not an issue of youth or inexperience or even mate preference, he may just be too much of a gentleman to pursue a female who’s not extremely cooperative. My Odin can be that way. For Odin, “convince me” means “no.” Maybe some combination of these factors accounts for Danger’s predicament.
Of course, you’re right; infertile individuals exists in all species. Fingers crossed that Danger just needs the right set of circumstances to become a sire.
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@caryl Danger is currently about five. I’m really hoping it’s just a matter of not the right lady, but thus far he’ll get all lined up and everything and then just…Nada. I’ve got him in with Pineapple just to test the waters, though I’ll likely put him in with Sylvestris as she hasn’t bred this season yet and see how that goes.
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Oh Hurray for Celia!!
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I do hope all goes well with Danger. Glad Celia and Pineapple and Azula are doing well!
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When I checked on Celia tonight, something seemed off. She was even more swollen than she was when I first brought her to the vet a week ago. I picked her up, handled her a bit, and made a startling realization: she appears to be gravid. There are defined, egg shaped/sized lumps in the area between her two incisions.
Now, as far as I was aware, they were spaying her when they did her surgery a year ago. Either I massively misunderstood her surgery at that time, or someone missed something, because this was not supposed to be possible!!!
Suffice to say, there will be a frantic call to the vet in the morning to get this sorted out because I’m gonna be livid if I was told she was spayed, she was charted as spayed, and yet somehow seemingly has eggs in her. 
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Yikes! For her sake, I hope you’re wrong! (But once you’ve felt gravid corns, it’s pretty hard to mistake it.)
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Here’s a couple of photos of her I took this evening. They’re not the best quality as she’s very restless.
You may be able to see why I’m suspecting it could be eggs. The sizing, the spacing, the firmness…I really hope I’m wrong.
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I’m not familiar enough with medical issues or surgical recovery things in snakes to comment on whether it’s possibly something not egg-related. The even spacing really looks like eggs to me, but the lumps in general are more visible than what I’d expect for a gravid corn. But if she’s on the slender side or possibly other reasons, I could see them being extra visible. How does her body shape look in the lower two thirds? Does she have that ‘fat triangle’ look that gravid corns get?
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She’s more on the slender side since her spay almost a year ago. The timing and look is exactly like it was when I brought her in when she was egg bound originally. She definitely has the teardrop-esque figure of a gravid corn, and the lumps are only between her surgical incisions (a.k.a. her reproductive tract area) but not down to her cloaca. She’s also in blue despite having shed when I was out of the country. The whole thing isn’t making sense.
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Ugh. Poor Celia, she’s one of those unfortunates who get the weird issues. This is as weird as it gets.
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