Advice regarding potential gravid female

Unfortunate news about the leaking egg

When I went to look through the door of the incubator last night there were tiny bugs in there coming from that egg

I got it out and all the substrate around it and made sure no bugs left it the tub with other eggs

I figured the baby must have died with having bugs on it so I cut it open call it morbid curiosity or guilt at wanting to know if id killed a healthy baby

The babie was still alive so iv cleaned the bugs off left it in the egg and put it into a separate tub

I have placed a camera in the incubator and this morning baby is out

Iv not open the incubator as had to get kids to school then bits done for getting ready for holiday

But took screenshot from camara

today is day 60

Im keeping everything crossed for this baby but im definitely reconsidering breeding my hognoses in 2yrs

This has been more stressful than having 2 kids with disabilities and a husband with cerebral palsy

Please pray and keep everything crossed for this lil one

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So i checked on the baby when I got home and its out and moving around

Iv put in back in the tub with the other eggs as iv read that helps encourage the siblings to pip

But my question is im guessing as it wasnt a natural pip I dont treat it the same like i have been told by some breeders to cut 24/48 after first pip but with this basically being an accidental pip I dont even know if I should even have put it back with the eggs

Or left it alone and set it up in a baby tub

There’s no hole or anything from the umbilical corn detaching which I was worried about

But there was yoke left in the egg (about the size of large pea)but it had gone a funky colour i should have taken pictures but didnt think about it

Pics of baby am i right in thinking its a snow

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Wow! I’m so happy the little one made it and is alive and well at the moment! I also have a little 4.4 g baby this year who didn’t absorb his yolk (but whose egg was fine and he did pip naturally). Seems like they both have pretty similar odds of making it long term, and the odds are higher than zero! The two of them can fight it out together.

I think you’re fine either isolating him or putting him in with his clutch mates. Whatever feels right to you.

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Wow! That one looks perfect. Just a little runty, but 4.4g isn’t so bad. I’d set it up separately now. Looks like a Snow Mot Tessera. :slight_smile:

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It does improve with experience, I promise. Acute stress is different than long-term stress for sure, but you’ve got this, and the stress will be over before you know it.

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@snakesofshadowlake @deanaii thank you both for your replies

I didnt get around to setting the baby up last night things got hectic with my youngest

But it seems she (no idea on sex but dont like saying it) did what id hoped and we have 3 eggs pipped this morning

Day 61 so a day earlier than id hoped though part of me felt like they were never going to hatch

Now to see how many make it then il make my frozen mice order as dont want to buy to many currently have 300 pinkies in my basket with my other snakes food :upside_down_face:

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Hooray!! Congratulations on the gorgeous little one and on the others as well. It’s not huge, but it’s certainly of a size that it should be able to thrive and grow. You’ve got another “war story” now, this one about how even eggs that look scary bad can produce healthy babies.

Natalie’s right. I am sorry that you’re dealing with so much. The stresses involved in breeding don’t vanish but they do get easier to manage as one gains experience. The long term concerns with the family do complicate everything, of course. Quite a few of us have some experience of that, too, though of course everyone’s situation is precisely only their own.

If you choose to breed next year, fine. If you choose not to breed, next year or ever again, fine. The community is for people who care about animals. It’s not specifically for breeders. Just know that we are here to support you whatever path you choose.

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Thank you im super excited taking all my might not to keep looking in the incubator

It helps having the camera in there

Were at i think 9 pips cant be 100% on the harder to see ones but i think there pips

The ones that have pipped include the tiny egg and the moldy one :grin:

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I second this sentiment! :ok_hand:

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Me too! We’re all here for you as best as we can be no matter what you decide for future years. For now, the exciting part is here!!! Can’t wait to see these pips! It makes the stress feel worth it :wink:

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I could not have done this without the help,advice and encouragement from this group its been a massive help

Off to bed now but thought id do a quick check on the eggs and baby

She was feeling dry so iv set her up in her baby tub with some slightly damp kitchen roll

We have now got 11 pips and lots of lil noses poking out

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Excellent! :tada:

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There is definitely a ton of knowledge and teamwork here for sure! You’ve got this! :clap::blush::snake:

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Do amels normally have such big verification in colour 2 of the new babies out this morning are more yellowy orange than I expected :thinking:

One looks like another snow mot tessera the other snow looks to be tessera then there a tessera amel in the colour i was expecting

But the last 2 a tessera and a mot tessera look so much lighter :thinking:

Also if they are mot tessera does that mean mum and dad must have been het motley?

there are 9 still piped and 14 unpipped

The moldy egg pipped And came part way out but seems lifeless :pensive_face:

@deanaii @caron @snakesofshadowlake @caryl

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Yeah, the parents had to have been het Mot. Motley has a hypo effect, so maybe that accounts for the color differences you’re seeing.

if the lifeless looking one pipped, he’s probably not lifeless. :slight_smile:

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Absolutely stellar babies Crystal! :+1::+1::+1::+1::+1:

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He did pip but I can still see alot of yoke in and he appears smaller than the rest

Im hoping they could be butter ls after finding a picture online of a 2 day old butter but that could be wishful thinking

My baby on left butter on right

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Thhank you were at 9 out so far

2 snow tessera

2 snow mot tessera

2 amel tessera

1 amel mot tessera

And then one each or mot tesand tessera of the odd colour im hoping its butter but thats probably wishful thinking

Newest 2

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What beautiful babies! You’ll need to wait until they shed to be sure, but I see one or two who look Butter to me. Congratulations on the wonderful results of your pairing!

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Thank you we have 8 more out and finally have normal pattern tho im not 100% as if the stipy babies are motley then could they be motley

Its all so confusing

I was hoping for more colours but its made it alot harder to identify than I was expecting considering was meant to be all amel and amel tessera lol

Pictures of the 2 normal/ motley?

And the tiny egg shes just 3.2g

And the babies i woke up to this morning (minus 2 as i started putting them in baby tubs befoe getting pictures :joy:)

still 13 eggs to go hoping for more amels as only have 3 out of 18

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