Also more tiger pattern imo so ‘Tigerquin’. Although I don’t like the shortened name myself
I still don’t list mine as it haha x
@cpbballs so a bit off topic but whats going on with this Cresties right eye?
I noticed both in the 4th and 6th photo that there seems to be something going on with it even in the poor photo quality.
Just thought to bring it up since no one else has seemed to notice.
No it’s definitely noticeable. It was part of why I thought this was a poor quality gecko and why I brought up eyes in my gecko examples too. That and how sad the actual crests looked with the head shape.
I just thought it was a bit larger than the left, but looking again after your comment it almost looks more like a cataract or fluid issue.
Ok yeah I don’t think this little guy should ever be bred, sorry @cpbballs.
Knowing he is a rescue by itself is a no-no for breeding any animal. The fact that he has this apparent eye issue just solidifies that he should remain just as a pet.
Being a rescue you have no idea what genetic issues this guy has, you have no lineage information and theres no telling what he went through before you got your hands on him, which can and will affect his breeding quality, let alone his health and wellbeing. Its better for him and any offspring he should not have.
Thought it was a lense-glare at first, but yeah it looks like a cataract or something like that. Ive seen a few geckos have them, and while it doesn’t affect their qol usually, you have no idea how/why he’s got it, so that unfortunately makes him even less of breeding quality
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These all photos of him fired down.
I will get some more of him fired up when I get to take photos of him again when he is.
Yes I noticed that when I got him the last place where I got him from they said it was from an injury when he was young like a injury or a cataract and the vet said the same thing, he still see light and fine but his pupil won’t get bigger or smaller to light but he can still follow light and follow things with that eye. With him being a rescue I want clarify he was given to the place I got him got him and some other crested geckos from a breeder that was getting to old to breed and take care of his geckos so they took them in as rescues/surrenders. He was offspring of the geckos that brought in so he was never bred before
Sticking with this! X
I was going to mention his eye, some are even born like it, he’s very special and a stunner
Yeah id still consider him a yellow brindlequin (or a harlequin with tigering if you will).
And agreed, he is very pretty, it’s really too bad about his eye.
@autumngeckos @ghoulishcresties thank you guys so much, you two don’t hoe much I appreciate to come on this community page and ask and get good advice and learn and grow as a breeder any reptile or amphibian and from any aspect of breeding or genetics. You two helping so much on this one and the post I did with the one I have for my classroom s couple months back in like fall of 2024 if you remember that time that you two helped thank you guys so much. I will get photos when he is fired up so you can see him fired up and I will get photos when is partially fired up so you can see him then if you think anything different. I think and do you think the same think?, he seems like he different pattern when fired down, fired up, partially fired up, when he is in a dark place in a dry period, when he is in a dark place with a lot but good humidity, when I take him out and he sees light and keep out for 15-30 minutes every he changes from being sleeping to waking up because I am handling him, and after I mist his cage on the weekends before I have go teach my school when I come home and mist him again take him out 30-45 minutes later; and in all these different scenarios I talking about he seems to have different colors do you guys think the same thing or not? I will get photos of what he looks in each on scenarios because stunning with all the different colors and patterns he shows at different conditions and situations. He is stunning, pretty, and beautiful thank you guys again for all the help you guys gave me I more of a better breeder for crested geckos and other reptiles. Does this mean I shouldn’t breed him because I get it but makes disappointed because I was going bring to my school and have in my animal, veterinary, reptile and amphibian class, exotic animal class, breeding class for exotic animals and my one for small animal breeding and one for livestock and equine breeding and one for other animal breeding and one for reptiles and amphibians breeding, my students were excited to see him and I might still bring him in and talk about why he looks fine first off but if you think about other things why not is a good idea to breed him. I get the quality when and not breed other animals and reptiles but crested geckos are harder but now know what I know really helps and my students will learn a lot talking about this experience of talking to you guys and asking questions.
@armiyana @noodlehaus @cmsreptiles thank you guys so much, you two don’t hoe much I appreciate to come on this community page and ask and get good advice and learn and grow as a breeder any reptile or amphibian and from any aspect of breeding or genetics. if you read my previous reply to ghoulishcresties and auntumngeckos that was more for them but you guys can read it too if the want and help but I talked about some things they helped me with in the fall of 2024 with another crestie I got from a old Brewster for my classroom that I teach in
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Here are two photos that I also took of him if you think anything different.
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Is the most recent photos I put in would you say that is him semi fired up, I think I have seen him fired up a few times and I don’t what he looks fired up in good lighting and not being in his cage? Do you know some that while he is in his cage to help get fired up so I can see what he looks like when fired up and I can get the photos when is fired up. What color would he he’s if he is fired up you guys think? Would fired up help you identify any other traits? I think the first photo I put is him in what he looks like semi fired up, the second one is what he is fired up or he is almost fired up because he looks yellow and not cream in that picture and in person he looked different those two times with his color, and the photos before the most recent photos are him all the way fired down, and the most recent photos are him between fired down and semi fired; what do you think about this, do you think I am right? One last thing what is phantom I could identify it but I don’t know what it does to the pattern or color but between a non-phantom and phantom I can see a difference but can’t put a finger on it why I can?
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Just a few more things this should be last few things to ask other than in future when get photos of him fired up with your tips to get him fired up while he is in his cage. I think he might be a yellow and/or cream because his colors and looking at many others of what you think he is with yellow and/or cream too. Do you think I am right about this? And if his head being red or orange would that be misfire because can they misfire something they don’t have or do they have it to misfire it because if he has too I think he is a red or a orange too or in his lineage he has red or orange or tangerine or red tangerine or orange tangerine or yellow tangerine to gel that color? What do you think about that can shed some on that for me that is the thing that is puzzling me and I wanted to breed him to figure why he has that red head and if he would pass on being a line bred trait/morph or it a new trait/morph or it is new recessive trait/morph that paradoxing the color; and to prove those theory’s of mine out wrong or right but if those are it is just misfire something special he has. Brindle vs tiger what is the main difference? Does brindle or tiger change the color of the gecko? Can they have both brindle and tiger? And then is brindlequin is brindle and harlequin together? I want to get hang on it. I am getting in contact with the family who the breeder who bred him and that is why he rescue like how I explained before to what the pairing was and his lineage and if any eye issues or cataracts in his family if not the vet said I could go to eye specialists and get his cataract removed and if it helps him regain more eyesight for him with vitamins and some meds for him for post surgery and if he is healthy and has no eye problems I could breed him if I want after I bring in for check up with his primary vet and his eye specialist. The one I go to is a vet that only for reptiles and amphibians and one vet that is there breed some of her own reptiles. So keep my toes and fingers crossed everything works out so I can do that
I still would consider him a yellow brindlequin. Because of his eye I would personally feel on the fence about whether he’s worth breeding. He is a nice gecko, but not an extraordinary one, and with a possible defect, im not sure i’d consider it worth it. His head-colour is cool, but since the eye-issue is apparently due to an injury, and he has what looks like scars in the red, it might just be due to the same injury that messed up his eye, and not something genetic. If you can get confirmation that the red was something he hatched with/developed on it’s own, and that the eye is for sure an injury nothing else, i don’t see anything that would make breeding him definitively wrong, i guess though.
Phantom is generally believed to be a trait that reduces the pattern, and adds melanin to the dorsal area. So any gecko that doesn’t have any white or orange pattern on their dorsal and/or laterals is likely to be a phantom.
Tiger is a trait that is believed to be present in all geckos, it is what makes the pattern align more vertically. Brindle and tigering is the same trait genetically, it’s just different names for different visual presentations of the trait, similarly to how flame/harlequin/extreme harlequin is the same technically. On some geckos it presents as dark stripes. If these stripes are very messy and broken up it’s called brindling, if they are more consistent and up-and-down like tiger-stripes, it’s called tigering. These stripes are usually mainly present on phantom geckos, but if they are present on non-phantoms, they’re called brindlequins (or tigerquins apparently, though ive never heard that distinction before). Brindle/tiger has nothing to do with the base of the gecko, though most brindlequins are yellow. Like i said before cream is a type of white pattern, and yellow is a base colour, so those two are not related either.