Gargoyle gecko breeding (echo egg thread)

Thank you! The female is one I’ve been searching for for over a year and a half and finally came across her. She’s going to be the cornerstone to my gecko breeding

Also… @autumngeckos & @ghoulishcresties…. For the substrate I just scooped some of the bio substrate out of her enclosure for the eggs. I just noticed there’s a group of springtails that came along with it. This shouldn’t be of concern, right? I should be fine to leave them? I’m setting up another incubation cup using perlite at a 1-0.8 ratio with water now, if I need to switch them over.

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Ive heard of people who just leave the eggs to incubate in the enclosure so i highly doubt it will be a problem - From my understanding they only go for eggs that are infertile/bad, and leave the good eggs.

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Springtails fine, I even have dwarf whites in with mine x

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This would confirm our suspicions that egg #1 from the images I uploaded is infertile. I just checked and egg 2&3 have nothing on them, meanwhile egg 1 had about 20 springtails crawling on it.

Should I bother separating that egg, and letting it incubate by itself?

I’d say as long as it’s not touching the others it should be fine, but keep an eye on them :blush:

@foxreptile @ghoulishcresties
I just picked up some shoeboxes similar to what I know the two of you use. Assuming the construction on most of these are the same, do you guys use silicone or anything to attach the top/bottom to the plastic material the body of the case is made out of? or do you just rely on the snap piece that holds them together? I’ve debated making them semi-bio, but I’d assume I need to silicone them if that were the case.

@101_geckos I know you use them too, so I’ll ask you as well

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I didn’t use silicone originally, it stays in place securely. however I have now because I needed to build a barrier for the bioactive soil

Also sorry for delay, just read this thread

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No worries, half the time I don’t remember who’s very active on here, so I just try to tag anyone I have seen with what I’m looking for advice on. I think I’m going to be siliconing as well.

Also for everyone else - update on the eggs. One of the set of eggs I found on June 4th is infertile; the other is doing great. As of now I’ve got one egg from mid to early May, and another from June 4th, so fingers crossed they both make it all the way!

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Fingers crossed :crossed_fingers:! I can’t wait to see baby gargs!

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This probably seems like a silly question, but how similar are Gargs to cresties in care, etc? I kinda want to get a breeding pair in the near-ish future, but want to see if they’re anything like what I’m used to.

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The care is nearly identical they just need slightly bigger enclosures and should stay in the 75-80 degree range.

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Gargs are wonderful! They do need UVB…….

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I would say they’re very similar. I’ve never had a crestie, but the individual I got my first one from (rhachouse, been in the game for a long time) basically described them as being calmer versions of Cresties. I keep mine in the 75-82 degree range; depending on room temp. Enclosures can be built the same way. I feed exclusively meal replacement, not a fan of bugs and mine are all healthy (I make sure to provide meal replacement that has insects in it).

I do provide uvb, however I’m not sure how much they actually get out of it. Mine hide 1000% of the time during the day. They only come out and do anything at night, not sure if cresties are the same in that regard.

I think they’re great. I’m going to be finishing up building my new females enclosure in the next few months, and once that happens, debating trying to do a multiple female enclosure, so I can have a 1.2 breeding group. We’ll see how that goes though.

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I can’t wait to see them either! The waiting is honestly the absolute hardest part of breeding lol

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I was told by my gargoyle’s breeder to provide him UVB but yeah he hides all day and comes out at night. I don’t have UVB for my crestie because she hides as well and I was told by her breeder absolutely no heat or UVB. Both are thriving and both eat Repashy/Pangea and insects as well…… I am getting a chameleon gecko next week btw…… pretty much same care as well……

yeah, UVB can be one of those things that some swear by, some don’t care, and some swear against. My Gargs have it, just in case but who knows. And awesome! Those look cool. Definitely post some pics when you get it!

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You bet Nathan! :+1::blush:

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I never used silicone myself. I put some wood at the front and tape at back, lower couple of hours and can still be bio then too :blush:

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@foxreptile & @ghoulishcresties mind sharing some photos of the inside of your hatchling enclosures? I’ve read some stuff saying don’t use substrate due to impaction risks, then others saying it’s not a problem or concern. My concern is how do you keep humidity high enough if you are using, say paper towels? Spraying constantly?

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I use paper towels for my new born babies up to 1 month (usually a few weeks old), just to keep an eye on poops etc.
Once I’m happy they are eating and pooping I move them straight into a bioactive enclose.

I feed them off the ground and have not had any impaction problems.

Humidity is harder to maintain with paper towels so may mean an extra spray during hot session, so I like to move them over to bioactive as soon as I can

I’ll try to get some photos

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