Getting out of brumation

Hey everyone! I’ll get right to the point. I have a male western hog, whose over a year old. Up until Nov 26 2022 he never missed a meal. He’s honestly very light and small for his age but his body condition is excellent. His highest weight was 39 grams. He was around 20(?) grams when I got him in May. He had a vet check towards the end of December, and the reptile/snake specialist agreed his body condition was good. He has not eaten since Nov 26, 2022. I did not lower his temps ever, he brumated himself. He has overhead heating, with cool side at 71 degrees, and warm at 88-90. He rarely basks and he always spends most his time on the cool side (maybe bc he’s albino? never been sure honestly)
Anyways my point is he has now hit 33 grams, which is 15% weight loss. I know past that is when you need to start trying new things, but I’m so lost as to where to start. He eats f/t pinkies (his width, fuzzies are too large and are wider than him.) Ive seen people suggest braining, scenting, different food, etc but i’m not sure where to start. What should I do? (Here’s a pic of him yesterday before i attempted feeding. I know stretched out is ideal but I didn’t want to handle him more than necessary lol)

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I’m no expert on hognoses or colubrids, but these temps aren’t low enough to be considered brumation.

Brumation would involve putting them in a cooler/fridge of sorts down to 57-60 degrees F or so.

Enclosure pics would be helpful. How far apart were his feedings when he was eating? How frequently are you trying now?

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This isn’t brumation brumation is Temps of about 55f I’m actually starting the process of waking up from brumation today haha setup is probably the thing I need to see to possibly help

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I didn’t think the temps were low enough either but the fact he stopped eating in winter made me think he did some type of brumation, but I guess not lol.
When he was eating, feedings were 6-7 days apart. I have been trying once every two weeks.
I am attaching a pic below. (You cant see it but yes, that is a hide to the left but in the pic you can’t see the entrance. I noticed he isn’t as active when I laid magnolia leaf litter, or other clutter so I stopped cluttering as much in about September. Maybe he needs more clutter? He isn’t defensive when I bring him out either, his temperament has been good. (Thermostat as you can see is there, i also have a digital hygrometer, (ignore the one on the wall lol it’s not being used) and I use a high rated heat gun to get consistent temps.)

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Ok cool I replied to someone else just now with extra info and a pic so you can let me know any ideas if you check it out :slight_smile: good luck with your brumation process!

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Definitely start here, because it’s one of the easiest fixes, if that’s all his hangup is. All of my hognose enclosures have at least 2"-3" of substrate and so much foliage/cork bark/hides that there’s almost no exposed aspen. I find my hoggies tend to eat better when they think they’re “hidden” from the world, and when they have more things to climb over/around/through like they would in the wild.

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Ok perfect thank you. I’m now thinking should I change the method of feeding itself? I have always put him in a separate feeding container. Should I leave him in his tank (with added clutter) so he feels secure?

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I would try to feed in the enclosure, yes.

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Thank you for your help, I will make these changes :+1:

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No problem, I hope the changes work out for you and he starts eating again!

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I DEFINITELY agree with this! The more stuff the better! :blush::heart:

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update: he ate!
in the time I made this post I attempted to feed him twice.
the first time, some days back, in his cage with all added clutter, but to no avail.
i then (today) put him in a separate smaller box with some clutter, brained the mouse and he ate :slight_smile: hopefully he will eat in his enclosure next time, but super happy since this is the first time in months he ate :slight_smile:

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So happy to hear he ate! Hopefully this is the start of better eating habits for him, and less stress for you.

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I am so glad your hoggie ate! I know how it feels to finally have success! I put a bunch of stuff in my hoggie’s enclosure and in a couple of weeks he started eating again after months of not eating just like yours. He has eaten 5 times in a row now and shed once during that time as well!

Here’s to continued success!!! :blush::snake:

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Thank you, and thank you for your help!

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So happy for you too! These guys are fussy sometimes :smile:

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