Happy to Share this here.
mocha is 100% het pied (or as other said visual het pied) x Phantom
i’m quite confused on this 2 as i’m expecting whites for my Leche Project, is it the normal color for hatchling? looks like purple passion.
They for sure look like purple passions! But yours whites definitely look mocha phantom! That’s odd… Did you use multiple males? Was the phantom the male or female?
havent check the gender yet. hoping to be a female, and i’m so lucky that i back read my convo with the seller as the male (mocha is 100% het pied 66% het albino) and it all pass down to this clutches as 66% for pied and 33% for albino. so another project to look around when they’re ready!
If they are both female which I suspect they are. I would say you have a split partho clutch. Which would also mean they wouldn’t be good for breeding unfortunately.
Can you post pictures of your male. My bet would be that it was an incorrectly IDd as a mocha. I have never heard of a partho clutch that resulted in a super of the mother but I have hatched dozens of BELs in every combination and those sadly aren’t the mocha phantoms you wanted.
Also meant to add that they don’t look like super phantoms either but I’ll be curious if they’re both females. Super phantoms are typically much darker and not as reduced pattern
as the one is. I really suspect purple passion/potion from your male. I just hatched this clutch and you can see how much darker the 2 supers are compared to the purple passions (one being similar reduced pattern)
Considering that most cases of pathogenesis in ball pythons seem to occur by terminal fusion automixis resulting in homozygous offpspring that are “half clones” of the mother, then you would expect partho clutches to look exactly like a super version of the mother.
Ha yeah I realized after I sent that I was thinking of something else. That’s what I get for multitasking. I still don’t think they look like most super phantoms though. Im curious what the male looks like.