Nagini has a weird spot

Dang. Yeah. I didn’t blow up the images. That doesn’t look like anything other than a burn.

I’d get her seen, @emichelle010. The manuka honey is good, but your girl will benefit from veterinary input as the layers of tissue beneath what’s visible start to slough.

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Yep I definitely agree with @caryl

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I actually had something sort of similar with my boa last year. Weird looking patch of scales that was hard to see, since she’s a dark morph like your bp. Only way I even noticed it was because she went into a shed cycle much sooner than expected, so I looked her over really closely (trying to figure out why she’d gone into shed) and found a small patch of scales on her side that had a weird texture. It didn’t seem painful to her when I touched it and it cleared up completely after a few sheds. I looked over everything in her enclosure to try to figure out what happened, and the only possible culprit I found was a bit on one of her hides that was a little rough? I sanded that down smooth, in case she might have scraped herself on it, but that was the only potential hazard I could find. I don’t think it could have been a burn, because her enclosure is such that there’s no way for her body to be in prolonged contact with her RHP (especially not the side of her body where this patch of scales was), and I temp gunned everything and there were no concerning readings.

I wish I’d taken pictures of my boa’s weird patch of scales so we could compare and contrast. The blown up picture @adon87 posted does look more like a burn to me than anything else. My sense is that this wound will probably heal just fine on its own, though I think it’s a good idea to schedule a vet appointment just in case. And it would be nice to figure out the cause, so you can prevent it from happening again.

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That is a perfect piece of advice with making it safe. I know she’s stronger than she even realizes. I’m gonna revamp her enclosure and replace anything she could hurt herself on.

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Update: the area doesn’t look too different, if anything it looks like it may be trying to heal. No discharge. No peeling or flaking off. No smell. No signs that are showing to me that it could be infected but we will reassess at a later date so I’m not constantly bugging her. I have continued the betadine upon today’s check in with her. Very diluted and went over it with clean water just to make sure. After a ton of research I did find a dressing I can use that is safe for her. I did apply it. I will be watching her behavior without going in to bother her to see if anything changes. she should eat in about 5-6 days and I’m going to be hoping for a bowel movement pretty soon if not tonight. I may bring that to the vet just to check all my boxes while I’m there since it is so expensive to go to an exotic vet anyway. I will update if she stops eating. Or if anything changes.

Thank you all for the advice and good wishes. If it starts to change at all in a negative way we’re going to the vet day of noticing. I did take out anything too rough and I am going to look into re-designing a new background for her that offers something that fits her current size and something to grow into.

Without stressing her too much I’m going to gather as much “evidence” of her behavior and the spot itself for my vet to help them narrow in on a treatment if necessary. Another thing I will be monitoring this week is my thermostats. I work from home so I’m going to be checking periodically if the temps spike or if there seem to be any errors. I wish I had a super high tech one that could go to my phone or something but I just have simple ones.

Absolutely losing sleep over this, but thank you again for all your opinions and experiences.

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My goodness @emichelle010 Don’t lose any more sleep! Nagini is going to be just fine! We all here have seen LOT worse issues than what she has. Not to downplay her issue but you are on top of things and you have gotten a ton of great advice already. So rest assure/easy that things are going to be just fine and dandy! :+1::wink:

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Interesting to hear about a dark boa doing something similar. See my fairly recent post here with a super leopard ball python.

Super GHI ball pythons are know to have skin/shed problems.

Maybe there is something in common about the mechanism that makes several different mutations dark that also causes skin problems?

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She’s not a confirmed GHI, but is a SUMA. other than this she’s never had any shed or skin issues. I did find that she broke one of her hides and it was pretty sharp. I talked with some other people outside of MorphMarket that said it looks like damaged scales. She may have tried to shed and scraped herself on it while her skin was still fresh. I’m going to check on her later today to see how she looks, aiming to not have to take her out of her enclosure unless necessary. Still treating it as a “possible burn / possible scrape” I don’t know for certain so I’m open to anything. She’s been doing good so far so I’m not too worried anymore. I will update with pics when I do take her out tho!

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Here is the spot from my super leopard post. In my case I think I can rule out burns as in a back heat tub. I also really can’t see how it could be a rub at that location but can’t completely rule out. I do feed live but would expect any bite wound to be more localized.

So theory for debate is what if in spite of incompatibility of the causative mutations a number of dark morphs (GHI, leopard, mahogany, and whatever the dark boa is) are making the same mechanical/chemical changes causing dark skin and those changes can sometimes cause a reaction like this? Like maybe they all cause something to build up in the skin that can occasionally get extra concentrated in a spot like these and cause damage.

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Many have already mentioned thermal burns but have you considered chemical burns? I’m not suggesting you have exposed your baby to battery acid but things like baby oil, olive oil or even moisturizing hand cream can leave marks like this. Not to mention hand sanitizer.

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Burns can be subtle. Think of it like semi gloss paint vs matte paint. Sometimes the sheen just looks a little off in one spot. Harder to notice on belly. Lotions, perfume and oils can burn as well. Substraites or plants can also burn because of oils/toxins. Wash hands and arms or change clothes before handaling if needed.

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Update: I had used a dressing a few times and kept monitoring her. I did remove a hide that was made out of plastic that she had broken unsure if that was the cause but it did have a sharp edge. Upon watching her like a hawk I can confirm it most likely wasn’t a burn due to the way she would interact with her basking areas. Some outside sources have told me it definitely looked like damaged scales. But I have better news. SHE SHED AND IS PERFECTLY FINE! I will attach pictures. I’m also wondering if in addition to the scrape if she needs a larger humid hide. Her favorite hide is a pumpkin and her chunky self likes to be very tightly packed into it and I’ve noticed she doesn’t have fat rolls but where her rolls would be u can see a slight difference in the scales. Other than me picking for imperfections she is perfect! The scales will probably be 100% in her next shed but she’s made a miraculous recovery with a lot of tlc in the beginning and then me letting her do her thing for a while. The pictures aren’t that great, but just know the “rough texture” that her scales in that patch had before is completely gone. Shes as iridescent as ever too!




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That’s spectacular news @emichelle010! She is certainly a beautiful lady! I’m so glad everything worked out for her and you! Thank you for the update! :heart::pray:

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Awesome update! Glad to hear she’s doing better.

If you think Nagini looks rough after the hide space squish you would hate seeing a white snake. They actually do get what looks like red welts in the squished spots. If you aren’t familiar with it, it can look scary. It usually fades after some time stretched out.

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