Hello everyone, there is problem recently, hope anyone could give me some suggestion cuz maybe you have faced the same situation.
My friend’s several ball pythons threw up successively after they eat, whether live or thawed mouse, the temperature is fine, about 82-86 Fahrenheit degree which they are used before.
After they threw up, some skin would look weird like inflammation, the doctor said them got inflammtion,too, but don’t know the cause.
I don’t know how to avoid this situation happen again, don’t know if it’s the winter, temperature, humidity or food, if anyone know about this, pls tell me, thanks
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If SEVERAL animals are throwing up…
They should be brought to a vet for viral or parasite testing…
There is something going on that is not normal. One animal is a fluke… Several is a pattern.
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Agreed with @armiyana. All animals should be taken and tested. Could be something viral/parasitic, or could also be a bad batch of feeders (this wouldn’t explain the inflammation, unless I’m misunderstanding what you mean by this)
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That’s super concerning. Have they brought in any new animals recently or bought feeders from a new source? Do they reguarly quarantine all new animals? They should separate the affected animals ASAP and have them checked out by a vet for testing
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They are already sent to vet, no virus or parasite, they test the blood and something, the vet treat them everyday, one seems cured, others are under treating.
They are brought from different breeder in different time, but ill in the same time, no infectious diseases, so we’re wondering if it the season change to winter.
Will pay close attention on them
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Change in season would not cause all animals to throw up, unless they have no heat or are way too cold to digest their food.
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Recheck all the temps and humidity in the habitats.
Have they been swabbed for any bacterial infections as well?
How long were they in quarantine before being housed in the same area?
If they were all frozen feeders I’d say maybe it’s a bad batch, but if they’re throwing up live/fresh kill then I really think it’s a snake issue not a feeder issue
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Checked the temperature and humidity, it is true a little dry recently, and it’s not only about throw up, after throw up , their skin goes a little red and even worse, which means inflammation. Firstly, the vet said they got inflammation caused by slough failure, then he said it’s bacterial inflammation. They quarantined long enough and act normal, until recently.
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I am a little confused. No virus or parasites, no infectious disease, per the vet. The vet is treating them, for what and how?
The skin problems only show up after they throw up, then gose away?
All the snakes are doing the exact same thing?
Started at the exact same time?
How many snakes?
Are they eating f/t or live?
What are they eating, mice, rats, asf,…?
If feeding dead, are you doing it or bought that way?
How often are you feeding them?
What size are you feeding them?
Are all snakes being seen by the vet or just 1 or 2?
Are they shedding OK and in one piece?
I would not feed for a couple weeks/month.
Find a new food source.
Go down a size.
Turn up the heat to 86-87. (hot side only)
Get the humidity up to 50-60%.
And I would also find another vet for a second option.
I am not a vet, but the information given does not sound right. These are the things I would be looking at and answering, giving it all the the vet, if the vet is not asking.
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Ok said both live and frozen. Which is why it seems really odd.
Absolutely right about wanting a 2nd opinion from another vet. This doesn’t add up
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Because the bacterial inflammation the vet told, if don’t treat them in time , the skin got whole body skin inflammation, that is why the vet inject them antibiotic everyday to treat them.
there are three ball pythons, the first one is the worst one, maybe didn’t sent him to vet in time, dead after the vet treat him a few days, the second one is sent to vet in time and seems cured now, the third one is now in the hospital.
Won’t say they got ill in the same time same day, but within a month. The confused thing is they got same symptom at first time.
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Live and frozen from different sources?
If I’m understanding the timeline correctly I do NOT think this is it but just FYI in case it fits someone else reading this post later:
I once got a batch of live feeder rats and mice delivered and within an hour of swallowing all the rat eaters regurgitated and some of the younger mouse eaters even died. Called another breeder I knew was on the same delivery route and he also had these quick regurgitations.
Turns out the rodent breeder had some sort of mite infestation that was bothering her workers so much they decided to spray the rodents down with Permethrin while loading. Not sure what the recommended hold period is after using that stuff but same morning was for sure not long enough.
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