Here is a pic of the little 2 head that didn’t make it.

Clutch from top and bottom. Have a lot going on with these, makes understanding the parents genetics more interesting!
Will share some individual shots when I get chance to take them, be interested to know what it says about both parents genetics.
Awwww. And sweet and sad at the same time! ![]()
You confirmed the female is Het Amel, as well as a visual Motley. Your male is definitely an Amel Motley/Stripe and seems to carry the vanishing pattern trait. He’s also (and @caryl or @solarserpents correct me if I’m wrong) confirmed Het Lavender. Definitely post more photos once the little ones have had their first shed!
Nice! Lots of variety! Can’t wait to see them all separate to take a better look at their morphs. Sorry the little two headed one didn’t make it. You can see that one of the heads had a bit of dome head, which is usually a fatal thing.
Wow, that’s quite a clutch! I’m sorry about your oddity not surviving. The science teacher in me finds such things fascinating, though it’s a tough thing to experience personally.
Agreed. You have some very pretty babies and a very pretty variety, too. I always think mixed batches are fun.
I don’t know if I’m seeing the Lavender. May be my eyes, my screen, or the lighting. Not saying it’s not there on the anerythristic-looking babies, I’m just not seeing it for sure. For sure, they will be easier to ID after their first shed. Some hardly change, but other look really different.
Congratulations on a beautiful clutch!
I was looking at the one stretching from the top right towards middle left. The head was looking rather translucent to my eyes, though that could just be the new baby sheen.

Lol hard to say. On my screen, I see some very yellow tones in the lighter markings in that one, which a Lavender shouldn’t have. Could be lighting, could be “that new baby sheen.” Good term there @noodlehaus! Could be… Dunno. Willl await shedding.
Number 1
Number 2
Number 3
Number 4
Number 5
Number 6
Number 7
Number 8
Number 9
Number 10 (appears to have a bug eye, it may struggle as body seems weird too)
Be interesting to see how they change once they have shed.
They have now all shed, any help with identifying what they are and what that means for the parents would be greatly appreciated. They all have plain ventrals, no checkers showing
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They are ALL so lovely!
So now you know both your motley parents are actually motley stripes (het motley and het stripe - visually motley, but het for each). The amel proved out with your female.
1 through 4 look like normal motleys to me. They’d be het amel, lavender, anery, and charcoal. If you trust what the seller stated about the dad, the babies are also 50% possibly het hypo and caramel. But given that they had him labeled as het opal (amel lavender) and the lavender didn’t prove out, I don’t know if I would totally trust what was listed. Of course, it’s not a huge clutch, so there’s a small possibility that the het lavender just didn’t get passed on. Or that the mom isn’t actually lavender (but I think she is; she looks like it to me).
5 looks like a very nice Pinstripe motley, also with the same hets.
6 and 7 are stripes.
8 is an amel stripe.
9 and 10 are amel motleys.
I kind of feel like I might be seeing diffused with a couple of these? What do you think @caryl and @noodlehaus ? It’s harder to ID diffused when there is also motley or stripe!
Pretty babies, and I do love a clutch with lots of variety! @solarserpents has already given a nice summary of their IDs, so I won’t restate that. I am not seeing Diffused at this point. I do see a couple of fuzzy pics (no criticism implied, babies move lol). If Diffused is present, their markings will become blurrier as they grow.
The non-Amel Stripes fade out enough that I would call them Vanishing Stripes. I think the Amel Stripes will show their markings a bit more as they grow and color up.
I wouldn’t rule out your male’s possible Lavender het just yet. Odds are that some of these should have been Lavender if your female is actually Moonstone (she does look like she is), but as I always say, odds are odds, not rules. I’ve had clutches where hets I knew for certain were 100% there didn’t show up in the babies. It’s still possible that he is het Lavender.
Congratulations again!
Thank you all. The mum being motley/stripe was a nice surprise. This has been a crazy clutch with so much going on, including the double header! Going to be a hard one for me to beat for a while. The last 2 clutches I hatched out pale in comparison to this one.
I am wondering, from these photos and hatchlings if your orange guy carries Buf or Toffee as well. Buf/Toffee plus Amel equals a very orange snake, and I’ve seen the gene also present by making the colors kind of lighter pastel. On many of those normals, I see the intense orange highlights between the saddles that can help ID a baby Buf. If my research/reading is correct, Buf, like red factor, intensifies as they continue to shed.
Also, it may be an easy thing to miss on the listing. It’s dominant, and sometimes presents with little change to a “normal” at all, so I’ve noticed it may continue its influence untagged.
It’s been a several months now since this thread was posted. Any updates on what these babies looked like as they grew? I’m very curious about the Buf/Toffee gene as I have two in my collection, but I haven’t been able to see babies out of either of them, yet.





















