With the regurge issues early in life, the malnutrition, the body condition (etc), I think this is what people are most worried about - hence all the questions and suggestions to see a vet.
We saw a poop earlier - are bowel movements routine and healthy like that?
I’m not sure what kidney issues would look like in a snake, but that would personally be my biggest concern
Ive visited 3 vets, and only 1 would even except me as a client, i lost a pregnant piebald, aswell as her tank mate that was a female krg black pastel lesser,my piebald was paird to my male orangedream enchi spider het ghost bp, and i was hoping for orange dream piebalds,
I know iknow your probably going to say you shouldnt house these types of snakes together, well i got both of the snakes from two different parties both snakes were a struggle at first and i could get either of them to eat, assist feed, frozen, live nothing, i waited and waited and dispite every major artical or source saying dont house the same sex together i have lerend yes male fight unless independent but for some reason when these females got paired together they fed, 1 at a time, and usually always piper to be the first, long story short, piper gets her condition, goes to the vet, dies in my arms a 2am burial later, welp lettys time to feed, its a no go ok ill wait a week, long story short, a year and a half, she wouldnt let me feed her, assist feed her, i even tried to force her to eat once but she locked her throat and still persisted to not eat, a year every week at her tank and finally one day she just didnt move again, i still made sure her tank was cleaned, moist, humid, temprate and just watched, other then that i take care of all my animals very good, i am basically in the process of several health issuse that cause me to be in the doctors and not be working, im a college graduate, although i would like disability i do not receive it, i live in a room in sombody elses house, and yes life is getting so difficult at this point that in order to insure my animals longevity i came to this forum becuase just due to racism and stupidty my life is so afflicted at this its getting hard to do what i enjoy and if i had to id sell the last of my collection, but i want to make sure i know what i have, and if i sell that i dont get ripped off, because kaya, the little one in my collection besides the morph im pretty sure she is something special.
I’m so sorry that your health and the health of your animals has been challenged so much recently, I truly hope things get better for you.
You are correct that most people on this forum (including myself) would warn against co-habbing ball pythons, but regardless I am so sorry to hear about how those two girls ended up passing
Would you be able to articulate to us why you feel this snake is unique? Excluding the morph, which has been verified, and the size, which has been discussed above, what gives you that special vibe about this girl?
I’m sorry to hear about what you’re going through, but it does sound like it may be in your (and the snakes’ best interest) to find them new homes right now
We feel for your situation, we really do, but you’ve been offered help and you refused. It sucks, but sometimes you have to make hard choices like rehoming for the sake of the animals, which I really suggest you do so you can focus on your health. Once you’re in a better place, you can start again.
Right now you’ve made it clear you care more about the assumed worth of this snake than its health and wellbeing. Even if Kaya was “something special” she has no relevance to the hobby because she’s three years old and 118g. At her growth rate, she will likely never be breedable, which is where the value is in any new mutation, as you’ve been told previously. No breeder with any sort of experience is going to pay a premium for an animal that looks to be in poor condition and is severely undersized. It is not okay to continue to neglect your duty of care to your animal just because you alone have the belief that this snake is a payday waiting to happen. She needs to see a vet, which you readily admit you are not in a position to seek out veterinary care, nor seem to want to. This animal’s needs go far beyond the abilities of suggestions from this forum.
If you continue to push back against the information given and suggestions made, we will have no choice but to close this thread as the discussion has stalled and it’s obvious there will be no progress.
What a read this was. Nothing more that i can add except youve got really good solid advice but you pushed back continuously. Bottom line, there should nothing more important than the well being of the animals. Period. Ive been in the hobby for many decades and raised boas to burmese. I recently was diagnosed with stage 4 cancer and knew i couldn’t properly care for my animals while going through surgery and nasty treatments. I temporarily rehomed my animals until i was well enough to assume proper care and husbandry. It a no brainer that the health and well being of the animals come first. I really hope you take the advice given here.
I get the vibe kaya is special because she doesnt show any lethargic traits, she actually continues to eat more then all my other bps, shes over attentive and despite her size still shows me how mighty she is, ive followed all the advice given, and dispite following professional advice ive also have proven things in the bp world that people proclaim not possible,one being people said baby bps wont eat crickets yet mine did, they say housing is bad witch id agree for males but its the only way i got my females to eat, and everyone was so supportive About increase her food increase her food and i uped her food all the way that one of her meals caused her to anal prolapse witch also caused me to hafto search on how vets specifically fix, after being inraged that yet again professional/breeder advice failed me ive kept her food at a steady size now at the weight she is and shes happy, she eats, and she poos regularly and i feel thats enough, not to have a million people saying vet, just tired of professionals being wrong, me being right and everyone on the outside saying im wrong when with me my animals are good, and everytime i include someelse, or their opinion something goes wrong, im not being combative, im pushing through comments that ive already heard before.
As both a keeper, breeder and scientist, one of the things I’ve learned over the years is that the biggest difference between some one “good” in their area of expertise vs “great” is being teachable and open to critique and new knowledge. The smartest person in the room is usually the one who’s perfectly comfortable saying “I was wrong about that, thanks for telling me”
You had a great opportunity to come here and learn from some very experienced keepers and breeders with invaluable advice, individuals who volunteer their time and share their wisdom from years of experience. I personally have benefited greatly from talking with them and strongly recommend being open to what they have to share.
Instead, you’ve squandered it and made your snakes suffer in the process.
You claim you know better about cohabitation….but both of those snakes died
You claim you know better about Kaya’s feeding needs……yet she’s small and stunted at 3 years of age.
You claim you know what you’re doing.…yet you tried to feed ball pythons crickets
The audacity to claim you know more than veterinarians and experienced keepers/breeders when all you’ve shared is a track record of poor husbandry choices and the resulting fall out suggests you value ego over your snakes’ health and wellbeing. It’s beyond time to let go of the pride and accept help and advice because your animals deserve better.
Here are her last poops, aswell as shed, and as you can see she is now maturing into her body, no size diff although i will admit she has a little more length now.
Except your not right and you constantly fail to heed advice and you lack the availability to be wrong. Its sad really, you’re dealing with innocent reptiles that depend on their keeper to sustain them with the best possible care for them to thrive. Your animals are not thriving and the fact you boast that they eat crockets is appalling. You obviously dont want help, you think you’re the smartest in the room and in my opinion, thats dangerous and your snakes have suffered for it. This will be the last post I make on here because you have zero intention on listening and I feel bad for your animals.
I’m sorry but your BPs did NOT eat crickets, especially not right out of the egg when they were absorbing yolk - the crickets escaped and you’re honestly lucky they didn’t chew on the vulnerable babies’ umbilical wounds
Again, I’m sorry but co-habbing without specific guidelines can be very dangerous, and unfortunately both of these girls have passed, and we don’t know how much co-hab stress may have contributed
This is why we encouraged you to see a vet, especially with the clear digestive issues this girl has
Everyone here has provided clear and safe advice which you have ignored time and time again, I agree with everyone else that it may be time for this thread to close.
I hope you consider the health of your animals and listen to the advice of professional vets - and PLEASE never breed Kaya, she is stunted and clearly unhealthy with potential genetic defects internally based on her eating, she likely would not survive, and even if she did her genes are not ones that should be passed down
You absolutely did not prove they eat crickets because, in your own words:
You never witnessed a single cricket being eaten. Not once. You even stated the hatchlings showed no interest in them. There is zero evidence a cricket was ever consumed by any of those snakes.
You are continuing to argue that you are right, everyone giving advice here is wrong, and you know more than professionals, vets, and long-time breeders. That is indeed being combative. If everyone here is wrong and our advice is bad, why do you keep coming back?
At this point it is clear there is nothing further to be gained from keeping this thread open, so I’m shutting it down.