So do I!!! !!!
Haha yep! Jess and Caron can testify that I can write small. Not necessarily legibly, but small.
Yesterday when I was packaging animals asks their data, I happened to think about the fact that I didn’t include an image of the back of a card. Dunno if you want it, Natalie, but here you go.
I forgot about the back of the card too! And I’ve got enough of them!
Thank you, @caryl!
KISS. I use sticky notes with codes for feeding, sheds, lay dates, viability, and other pertinent information about lineage/genetics. I transfer important genetic information to new owner as well as anything regarding the wellbeing of the animal. However, I don’t think it’s necessary for a new owner to know every single shed date and feeding or weather they pooped or not 3 months ago. Again, keep it simple with relevant pertinent information that gives the new owner and animal what is relevant for ongoing success in the care of that animal or future Breedings. Digital is more accessible and convenient, but I just do it analog for simplicity and speed. I transfer by peeling off cage and sticking into binder.
an example of what you may see on my sticky note that is displayed in a running log fashion.
Kasper - {P Coral/Lipstick} Gohst Motley H Kahl - 7/21 Male
date: XLR /Shed/ Date:XLR Date: Paired Date:SF -
4/21/25 x sliver Coral Kahl H Anery1 10/14/3S/1S/3CKHA1/3CGHK/1AMHK/1HDHS/1MDHS. Date XLR /Shed/ Date:TRSF Dan $1500 6/25/25
I will also log information given to me by the new owner on that same sticky note for record keeping.
Haha. Thank you! Best reminder I’ve had all day! I needed that, @adon87!
Lol gotta agree on the KISS. I do zero record keeping about poop, water changes, spot cleaning, substrate change outs. It all happens but I don’t write it down for individuals.
I’ve found that many new owners like getting all of the growth info for the animal. I was going to say, especially if they plan to breed the animal, but that’s not necessarily accurate. I’ve had people who want them as pets be very appreciative of this kind of data. I keep up with it myself so that I have info about such things as which family lines produce larger babies, or fantastic feeders, or a lot who need scented food initially. Since I’ve got it, I pass it on. I’m sure plenty of folks have said thanks and never looked at again, but I do think that most of them are happy to have it.
And I would be one of them who keeps ALL information any breeder sees fit to send me. As a matter of fact I staple the breeder info to the feeding index card I keep for each snake. I keep ALL feeding cards when they filled up.
However, will someone please tell me what the heck KISS stands for? It’s driving me NUTS !!!
Keep things simple
I know people who send lineage trees along with last recorded weights, measurements, tests, and a sheet more of information. No pun intended.
To each their own.
This conversation made me consider moving everything to one note but then i just decided to live my life. Lol, you can easily get lost in the weeds and never see the open road across the way. This can go for sticky notes, one note, or any other note taking software/practice.
@caron just remember KISS.
“Keep It Simple, Stupid” is the full acronym. Haha.
The funny thing about poop and why I started recording it: we were holding all these snakes two days after they’d been fed, and some had digested enough to poop in the cage, sparing us, while others had not. I thought it was the ones who had not yet pooped who were doing the job on my kids/neighbor kids/furniture/clothes…you get the idea. I believed if I tracked their poop, I’d know who was most likely to give me an inconvenient clean/up project after holding them and who wouldn’t.
For the record, the snakes who had already digested their meal vs those who had not made no difference. I realized (after tracking it), that there are 3 snakes who consistently poop on us no matter when their last meal was or when their last poop was. Stinkers. Most of them, with regular handling, though, have stopped and pretty much never make us clean up after them. We’ve just decided to hold the remaining notorious ones for just 5 min to get their bowels moving, and then put them back in their cage to finish the deed. Haha.
Now the only time I mark a poop is when they poop ON me, so I can remember which ones are the stinkers before handing a nervous neighbor girl her first snake to hold. I’m sure after all my new snakes are grown up and I know them well, there won’t be a need to record it because I’ll just know.
Ok but Keep Things Simple should be:
KTS not KISS?
This post totally had me laughing. One of sweet, sweet darlings had his career as a classroom pet somewhat abbreviated. He was one of those guys who would poop when being handled. Every. Single. Time. Didn’t matter when he had last done it nor how much, he was going to do it when you got him out. Lol
That’s Starla! She came from a big breeder and was an adult when I got her so I’m sure she didn’t ever get handled much. She poops every. Single. Time!
Lol, reptiles in general urinate, poop, musk, and other things as a warning/defense from predators. I have a blue tungue hat will get skidish and birth with more than usual noise or movements.
I record poops on gravid females, females that recently gave birth, or if i see anything that might be concerning.
I think i have only been pooped on twice by a snake. Once from a warm soak to get stuck shed off and urates out. The other was late at night and the snake was already mid poop. I keep lights off so couldnt tell until it…well yeah you get the point.
I’m actually fairly shocked that I haven’t been pooped/peed on by any of my snakes…yet. (Though watch, now that I’ve said that, one of them is just going to unload on me tonight )
I do usually try to avoid having them out for long periods of time when I know one of them is due to poop soon, but I feel like my luck is bound to run out one of these days. I’ll often have the blood or boa out for an hour or more at a time several times a week, so I feel like it’s bound to happen eventually.
My first was in the ‘80s. Ruined my 100-zipper leather jacket, but luckily it didn’t drip into my Jordans.
Oh no, not the leather jacket!
I’ve been musked, pooped and peed on more times than I can count!