This clutch is from
Female - od enchi leopard pied ( kinova )
Male - od enchi fire pied ( best dress balls)
. I did pair an Od enchi yb pied and the same male last year but the mom gave me babies from the Od enchi yb pied . I don’t think if she retains sperm the male can cross the dna with himself.
2 males
2 females
Here’s a pic of the mom , no fire
That’s pretty wild looking so far.
Could probably look into getting them shed tested to see exactly what’s up. Obviously they may change color once they shed…so they may gain the ivory grey on the head or fire color splashes.
I’d maybe consider testing mom too for YB and fire just in case it was missed as a low expression.
Tagging @t_h_wyman for thoughts
First, I would definitely wait until they shed out and feed to allow the pigment to fully come in and develop. Given the genes involved, I could see a possible cascade synergy that would make for an ultra-white Pied (though it would be odd to have the cascade in all four babies)
After that, I would definitely check mom to see if she is a misID’d Fire as that would be the next most likely possibility
Third possibility would then be where I could see this being an occurrence of androgenesis. A shed test might help there as well
I might shed test mom and babies , last year I paired with the Od enchi yb pied and didn’t hit ivory or fire . The odds of hitting all is very odd . Hopefully after they shed something might show up and help . Only one has little spots of orange down the back . I wouldn’t think kinova would miss id something like this but stranger things have happened
One baby does have orange spots down the back and on the head . Maybe that’s a clue ?
Looking at the photo again, that does look like the spots you would see on a high white pied or a super fire. But again, more pigment will show up after the shed
As far as weird odds…
My very first year I hit 4 BELs because mom passed lesser onto every egg. The next year only 1 in 6 had lesser. 
Trust me, it happens more than you would think
Those definitely look like super fires.
They do , but the mom doesn’t have fire . So how it’s possible? What’s the odds on getting 4 ?
I would be shocked from them . Its a pretty basic snake with what they breed 
Dad has fire. That’d make sense if it was androgenesis. The 50/50 split for gender fits too. I’d definitely get one of them shed tested and not be shocked if it comes back super fire, super enchi, homozgyous for pied.
And run a panel on both mom and dad just to rule out any of the possibilities like unknown BEL genes, unknown YB genes, etc.
That would be very interesting
Are recommendations on shed companies?
MorphMarket has RGI Inc on the sales side.
Rare Genetics, Inc. 100% the only company I use. www.raregeneticsinc.com
Third vote for RGI for testing. You get a discount if you purchase through MorphMarket, too.
I don’t really have BP morph advice other than you’ve definitely got to wait for them to shed to get good ID ideas. I can definitely say that odds are odds; they’re not rules. In 2024 I had a pair of corns and the male could have had three or four possible hets which should have showed with the female. 18 babies, not one expressed any of those traits. Then the tiny second clutch of 2 babies showed three hets in one baby, two in the other.
I’ll go with them for a shed test
I assume they test for super od or super enchi ?
The test will tell you if they are positive or not for the gene. The positive results will be het for single gene and hom for super. Since those are the correct terms scientifically speaking. Reptile keepers just liked making things sound really cool without really looking into the actual science. Lol
