Well Starla is a puzzle. 14 days post shed today and still no eggs (or mom for that matter) in the lay box. Hmmmmm.
Goldie, on the other hand, surprised us. She was 11 days between shed and lay last year and only 8 days this year. So we missed her by 24 hours, but eggs look good. Appears to be 12 good ones and one slug.
Congratulations on the healthy clutch from Goldie. Those look very good!
Hopefully Starla will get with the program and lay soon. These darn dams rarely read the manuals and they can really stretch that time frame. I had one who shed twice after breeding before laying, once on the normal schedule and again in about a month, one who went 20+ days after her shed before laying. Then last year there was Revel who I didn’t think was gravid and laid really late while I was gone, like 60 days past lock. It is stressful for the humans when they are late.
Different species but I see a lot of people claim that Ball Pythons are bred so frequently that their lay schedule is known down to a “T”, but I just had my girl lay over a week before her 30 day post-ovy date. Last season she was several days late…
When I bred the Flk/Brooksi Kings my female was dropping eggs anywhere from just a few days after pre-lay shed to 2 weeks after.
Starla STILL hasn’t laid, but Luna has! 18 perfect eggs, no slugs, just like last year. She learned her lesson and ate much better this year after she was gravid, unlike last year when she starved herself. Her spine looks surprisingly round for just having laid eggs and I’m so relieved. I really didn’t want to breed her two years in a row since she triple clutched last year, but I just don’t have many females that are grown enough to breed. We’ve tried all 4 of them, including Luna and Goldie, again, and I’m so impressed those mamas are producing like champs!
Within the next two years we’ll have PLENTY of full grown females so I shouldn’t have to duplicate repeat mamas back to back much longer…
Starla hasn’t laid yet, still. She’s in and out of her humid hide depending on the day.
Sunny shed 11 days ago and has also not laid. She’s in her humid hide all day every day, but no eggs.
And this is why I try to breed 4 females every year because something always seems to go wrong with at least half of them! Maybe I need 20 years of experience to change my mind, but so far this is my norm!
I totally sympathize! That’s often the way it goes- until one year it doesn’t and all of them lay huge clutches! Dan has been known to fret about “way too many babies” coming. Usually his worries are pointless, as not all the possible babies arrive.
Yeah, the “too-many-babies fear” must be a reality for some. But I also tell myself that the reason mine will never surprise me with too many is because in the old days, they bred for fertility and kept holdbacks that promised 30/clutch. I’ve been focusing on breeding for genetics and I’ve noticed all my clutches have so far been MUCH lower than Kathy Love’s averages in her book.
Update:
Sunny seems to have completely reabsorbed her eggs. I don’t think we’re going to have any babies from her.
Starla has very, very distinct eggs in her belly. I have no idea when she will lay them, but we’ll keep checking daily!
Update time (finally)! Starla shed a second time on Monday and is moving briskly around her enclosure now. It’s about time! Sorry for the bad lighting, but I caught her shifting around last night in the dark. Given that she’s a pretty chill girl who doesn’t move around much, this is a gooooood sign:
Maybe. I can’t tell if she’s fat or gravid, but I swear I can feel eggs.
I guess we’ll see in a week or two. If there aren’t any eggs, I’m calling it and putting her on a massive diet. I just hate to do that right now if she is growing babies.
Maybe all that extra action on her part means she actually does have at least a few eggs in there. Surely you should know soon at any rate. They can keep us guessing, can’t they?