I just canāt believe it, I feel so bad for her because this was supposed to be dealt with. I mean, it could theoretically not be eggs, but it really, really feels like it.
So Ms. Celia will be going to the vet again in a couple of hours. I will update when I know more.
Tagging @solarserpents @caryl @lumpy because I know you guys would likely be interested in updates.
Soā¦Sheās gravid.
The vet took one feel of her, made the same face I made when I realized what I felt, and immediately suggested an x-ray. This is the same vet that did her initial spay, so she knows my girl and was just as stumped as I was. As far as she saw, everything was removed during the last surgery and no one had any reason to doubt that until now. X-ray shows 7-8 eggs, seemingly from retained ovarian tissue (& possibly retained sperm).
Sheās an enigma at this point, but the vet doesnāt think sheāll have the capability to lay these eggs due to last yearās surgery. Which means sheās got a second spay scheduled for next week. Iām considering asking the vet to do the best to remove the eggs intact if they seem fertile, just because at this point who knows whatād happen if I incubated them? It seems like anything is possible with this girl.
What a strange plot twist to this ever changing story! I wish her the best of luck with the additional surgery, this canāt be easy for your nerves
We are here for you Jess. I know you must be losing your mind at this point, I know we all would be. This is a horrible situation to deal with. Many prayers for you and for her.
I am going more than a little batty, but thankfully thereās a fix for it, and she doesnāt seem distressed. Iād be pleased as punch if she somehow manages to lay these without surgery, but even if not, sheās in good hands next week. They got her through once, hopefully theyāll get her through again.
Seems like this girl just has the worst luck
Sheās definitely had her hardships, but it doesnāt seem to really phase her. The staff at the vet clinic love her because sheās got such personality, loves to be held, just an angel of a snake. Hopefully sheās just as strong as ever and makes it through this to live out a happy, healthy life.
This is possibly the craziest snake tale Iāve ever heard! I think I remarked last year that Celia might end up in veterinary journal. I guess she thought last year wasnāt dramatic enough. Sheās definitely article-worthy now! She pulled through last year like a true champion. Hopefully sheāll do that once again. (Once being an important word in that sentence, Miss Celia!)
I think I might email and ask for copies of her records, just because I kind of want them for myself? Iād really love a copy of the x-ray, at least. This is what I get for openly saying/hoping my second year would be better than my first. As long as she makes it through, Iāll be fine, but Iād appreciate this being her last spayā¦a phrase I NEVER thought Iād utter.
Thatās truly crazy, Jess! I love the āSpayed Femaleā note with all those eggs. Celia is really one in aā¦quadrillion?
I donāt even have a clue on the stats, but sheās definitely a rarity! I just wish it wasnāt in something that could put her life at risk, but alas. Thankfully since sheās already on antibiotics, she doesnāt go in until next week. Iād love for a miracle where she gets 'em out on her own.
Thatās crazy. So with the initial spay (I know nothing about reptile neutering, so forgive my ignorance!), did they just remove the ovaries? Is that standard?
In a spay, they remove the ovaries and the oviducts. As far as anyone knew, both ovaries and oviducts were completely removed. However, it seems some ovarian tissue remained and regrew. She ovulated, and apparently produced the eggs seen on x-ray.
Nature is truly incredible
That it is, @lumpy, that it is!
Celia update is that she has shed & pooped. Poo looks healthy, urates are looking better. She gets her next ceftaz injection today, along with her soak. Might give her a small mouse to see if sheās still eating. Everything else around here is pretty quiet. Eggs are incubating, everyone else is doing great.
Such a crazy tale! Dan commented that Celia and her eggs are proof of the line in āJurassic Park.ā Life does indeed find a way. Glad everyone else is continuing to do well.
Yeah, that line has been firmly planted in my head the last couple of days. Who knows how far this will go.
I made a separate thread for Ms. Celiaās updates, since this one has gotten quite long and now covers more than one topic: