Accidentally threw a wrench in my 2023 season 😬

I just can’t believe it, I feel so bad for her because this was supposed to be dealt with. I mean, it could theoretically not be eggs, but it really, really feels like it.

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So Ms. Celia will be going to the vet again in a couple of hours. I will update when I know more.

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Tagging @solarserpents @caryl @lumpy because I know you guys would likely be interested in updates.

So…She’s gravid.

The vet took one feel of her, made the same face I made when I realized what I felt, and immediately suggested an x-ray. This is the same vet that did her initial spay, so she knows my girl and was just as stumped as I was. As far as she saw, everything was removed during the last surgery and no one had any reason to doubt that until now. X-ray shows 7-8 eggs, seemingly from retained ovarian tissue (& possibly retained sperm).

She’s an enigma at this point, but the vet doesn’t think she’ll have the capability to lay these eggs due to last year’s surgery. Which means she’s got a second spay scheduled for next week. I’m considering asking the vet to do the best to remove the eggs intact if they seem fertile, just because at this point who knows what’d happen if I incubated them? It seems like anything is possible with this girl.

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What a strange plot twist to this ever changing story! I wish her the best of luck with the additional surgery, this can’t be easy for your nerves

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We are here for you Jess. I know you must be losing your mind at this point, I know we all would be. This is a horrible situation to deal with. Many prayers for you and for her.

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I am going more than a little batty, but thankfully there’s a fix for it, and she doesn’t seem distressed. I’d be pleased as punch if she somehow manages to lay these without surgery, but even if not, she’s in good hands next week. They got her through once, hopefully they’ll get her through again.

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Seems like this girl just has the worst luck :frowning:

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She’s definitely had her hardships, but it doesn’t seem to really phase her. The staff at the vet clinic love her because she’s got such personality, loves to be held, just an angel of a snake. Hopefully she’s just as strong as ever and makes it through this to live out a happy, healthy life.

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This is possibly the craziest snake tale I’ve ever heard! I think I remarked last year that Celia might end up in veterinary journal. I guess she thought last year wasn’t dramatic enough. She’s definitely article-worthy now! She pulled through last year like a true champion. Hopefully she’ll do that once again. (Once being an important word in that sentence, Miss Celia!)

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I think I might email and ask for copies of her records, just because I kind of want them for myself? I’d really love a copy of the x-ray, at least. This is what I get for openly saying/hoping my second year would be better than my first. :upside_down_face: :joy: As long as she makes it through, I’ll be fine, but I’d appreciate this being her last spay…a phrase I NEVER thought I’d utter.

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Well, I made the request, so I can now present everyone with this crazy visual:

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That’s truly crazy, Jess! I love the “Spayed Female” note with all those eggs. Celia is really one in a…quadrillion?

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I don’t even have a clue on the stats, but she’s definitely a rarity! I just wish it wasn’t in something that could put her life at risk, but alas. Thankfully since she’s already on antibiotics, she doesn’t go in until next week. I’d love for a miracle where she gets 'em out on her own.

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That’s crazy. So with the initial spay (I know nothing about reptile neutering, so forgive my ignorance!), did they just remove the ovaries? Is that standard?

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In a spay, they remove the ovaries and the oviducts. As far as anyone knew, both ovaries and oviducts were completely removed. However, it seems some ovarian tissue remained and regrew. She ovulated, and apparently produced the eggs seen on x-ray.

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Nature is truly incredible

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That it is, @lumpy, that it is!

Celia update is that she has shed & pooped. Poo looks healthy, urates are looking better. She gets her next ceftaz injection today, along with her soak. Might give her a small mouse to see if she’s still eating. Everything else around here is pretty quiet. Eggs are incubating, everyone else is doing great.

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Such a crazy tale! Dan commented that Celia and her eggs are proof of the line in “Jurassic Park.” Life does indeed find a way. Glad everyone else is continuing to do well.

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Yeah, that line has been firmly planted in my head the last couple of days. Who knows how far this will go.

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I made a separate thread for Ms. Celia’s updates, since this one has gotten quite long and now covers more than one topic:

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