I don’t understand what the debate is and what you’re throwing in …
This thread is for discussion on proving out and maintaining a list of allelic morphs. If you want help trying to ID you’ll need to wait for the babies to hatch and have their first shed and start a new post for ID, not list it here.
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An important thing to consider here is that full pigmentation does not occur until some time after the babies leave the egg and shed and eaten a couple times (has to do with oxidative biochemistry). So it is very possible (even probable) that the sire is a normal and all you are seeing is babies that have not finished developing/pigmenting
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