The breeder asured me he is male he said he has used him to breed. I definitely will go larger for sure with him.
I have tubs very similar to that that I use for travel (or evacuation if the need arises). Design-wise they should be just fine as a quarantine tub, just make sure you pay attention to the sizing so that the snakes aren’t too cramped. Although since the lids just snap on rather than latching, I would recommend using some binder clips to secure the lid, just to be safe. I even use binder clips on my latching Sterilite tubs since the lid can be bowed out a bit even with the latches. Better safe than sorry!
Regarding adding ventilation to a traditional storage tub, I’ve tried using both a drill and a soldering iron and both can work, though I find the soldering iron much quicker and easier. When I used the drill, I ended up with some sharp edges on the holes I had to sand down, plus it makes a bit of a mess with all the plastic shavings it produces. It’s also kinda noisy (my cats hate the sound of power tools). The soldering iron is much more neat and tidey, leaves no mess of shavings, and is just all around easier. Only downside to the soldering iron is the noxious fumes from the burning plastic, so it’s better to do it outdoors (or in a very well-ventilated room away from your animals).
Congrats on your new rosy boas! I hear they’re a wonderful species, and the pair you’re getting are really beautiful.
There’s something of a debate within the snake-keeping world about just that subject, regardless of species. Some say larger enclosures stress them out, others feel the bigger the better. I think either can work, and so long as the snake has space to stretch out (the added measurements of the long side and short sized combined should be at least as long as the snake) with appropriate hides and the snake is eating and drinking and doing snake things, it’s fine. I have a preference for using enclosures at least a little larger than the commonly recommended size for a species, but if you’re going bigger, you should add extra hides and cover (rocks, branches, fake or real plants, etc.) to ensure the snake feels secure. They should have hides and cover in smaller enclosures too, but the larger the enclosure, the easier it is to leave too much open space, so you just should be extra conscious of it when using larger enclosures. You also need to make sure that the enclosure isn’t so large that you struggle to clean it.
A lot of it just comes down to the preferences of the snake and keeper in question. Some snakes do seem stressed out by larger enclosures, even with a lot of cover, while other snakes seem to really appreciate having more space. And some keepers just don’t have time to keep larger and more elaborate enclosures clean or the space to store them, while others may have smaller collections and/or more free time, so they don’t have a problem dedicating the extra time and work needed to keep larger and more elaborate enclosures clean.
Basically, so long as the snake can stretch out and feels secure, and so long as you can keep it clean, there is no single correct answer. Do what works for you, your animals, and your situation.
Such great information i definitely have my thinking cap on learning all this. I have one take down tank thats 36x18x18 i hope its not too big for the male. I can always buy a new one before quarantine is up so it will be ready. I can use the 36 to use as the outer enclosure for the scorps if i need a smaller than 36. I really dont want to be having to switch them back and forth or whatever because i dont want to unduely stress my animals. My animals have always been my love and family ( i know papa the chickens and rabbits aren’t pets etc. ) i can still hear him in my head saying that growing up.
One further question when it comes to hides what is the rule so to speak about them i want to make sure i buy the appropriate size.
Not “big” and not “small” but just “right”. Lol
But in my honest opinion, we are looking for a hide that is small enough to provide a space where the snake is slightly smaller then the total space that the hide provides. And big enough so the snake can fit inside of course.
Why do i hear the tale of goldilocks and the three bears here i love you guys.
Because you were supposed to hear it! Lol ! We love you too!
What’s even more wierd is i use predictive typing on my phone bc it helps me with my traumatic brain injury and it knew exactly what I was going to type when i typed go damn mind reader.
I think the 36x18 enclosure should be fine. It sounds like the male you’re getting is large, and I’ve heard that rosies tend to be pretty active snakes who like having some extra room to move around. As I said before, just make sure you provide some hides (hides should be large enough that the snake can fit fully inside, but small enough to provide a pretty snug fit) and cover. The general rule is to have one hide on the warm side and one on the cool side, but you can and should include more if the enclosure is large enough to accommodate more hides. Some branches for climbing would probably be a good idea, along with some floor clutter like rocks, plants (fake or real), leaf litter, etc. The idea is to create an environment where the snake can move around the enclosure without being too exposed and has plenty of places to hide. So long as you do that, you usually don’t have to be too worried about an enclosure being too large for the snake.
Awesome information
Yes, looking forward to more pics in the future.
Do you currently have other reptiles? If not, then you don’t need to quarantine. It’s still best to have a period of time where you can monitor the new arrivals more closely, like you mentioned (eating, weight, signs of sickness, behavior, etc.). But you can do that in their permanent homes with just a simpler set-up and substrate.
An actual quarantine is only needed if you were worried about new arrivals transferring disease or pathogens to other animals. But if there are no other animals, then it’s not necessary.
If the two new snakes are coming from different places, though, even if you don’t already have snakes, then you’d still want to isolate them from each other for several months, like everyone has mentioned.