Hello i have a ball python not sure of the genetics was told leusistic but there has to be more cause of the markings could anyone help me please?
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Not a Blue eyed Lucy or Black eyed lucy.
This is some form of Piebald. I will also note that this Ball Python appears to be a bit underweight, how often are they being fed and what are they being fed?
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They really didn’t give any other info aside from leucistic? Not even black or blue?
Can you post a clear photo of the eyes?
There’s a small chance that this is a paradox leucistic. I have one with much less markings. I’ve seen a couple with markings more similar to this as well.
The colors make me think more of something champagne pied. Maybe with a leucistic gene of some type.
This is definitely a situation where genetic shed testing would come in clutch.
Here’s the paradox I mentioned. She’s a super Mojave…but I’m assuming she’s carrying orange dream and hypo based on the color of the spots and her parent’s pairing info. She still has very pale blue eyes. She’s probably going to be shed tested at some point to verify it tho.
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That was my first thought, some sort of champagne pied. Definitely not a leucistic. Eyes look black to me, but hard to tell from the angle of the pictures.
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The eyes are black and she eats 1 adult mouse every sunday but she went 4 weeks where she refused to eat but she finally ate 1 on Wednesday so we are gonna feed her every Wednesday and sunday till her weight comes back up
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They said blue eyed leusistic but her eyes are black
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An adult mouse? So is it large or medium?
I’d say that you need to start feeding them rats on their next feeding and from then on. Rats are more suitable for Ball Pythons, you need to be feeding 10% of their body weight in grams every 10 days.
So if you don’t have one already I’d get a gram scale to weigh your BP occasionally so you can get them on a proper diet.
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She isnt big enough to eat a rat and she acts scared of them
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Ummm, yeah, she’s big enough for at least a small adult rat. Whether or not she’ll eat one is another question. What was she fed from her previous owner?
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She’s absolutely big enough for rats. She could be eating weaned/small rats at her size
Are you feeding her live? She may prefer f/t.
The only time I’ve ever had to feed Ball Pythons mice is when they are hatchlings, and they are fed small mice their first meal. After that they go straight to fuzzy or pup rats.
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Black eyed leucistic does exist. It’s the fire complex.
Also … I have a BEL (moj/les) with 3/4 black eyes. It’s because he also has cinnamon.
And this photo makes these two BELs (special/moj) look like they have black eyes but they are sapphire blue normally.
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Yeah … That’s definitely frustrating if they didn’t tell you anything else. I replied to another comment about black eyes where I posted my cinnamon BEL… But honestly your best bet here is getting a shed test done to find out what’s going on.
If she does have champagne, she might show a bit of the ‘wobble’ when she’s stressed. Or if she tries to climb or stretch away from you she may get a little confused on up and down.
she really is a beautiful girl though regardless.
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Looking at the photos again, it does look like she also has some shed stuck on her. That can actually be some of the problem too if it’s really dirty shed on a white snake. There are a couple spots that look too dark to be just shed stuck on her as well.
Might not be too bad of an idea to give her a soak and then let her slither around in a damp pillowcase for a bit to get it off.
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I know black-eyed leucistics exist. But they usually have yellow spots if they have any colour at all, not the mottled champagne colour of this snake.
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Yeah, but my super Mojave paradox doesn’t have only Mojave color spots. If it is a sort of paradox the other genes can be a factor. Or if there is some stuck shed which I think can be a factor as well on the color
Also, super fire can actually have brown spots in the yellow. They can also be affected by the other possible genes particularly enchi and OD it seems … So it still can be a BlkEL, a paradox or a Pied. But we wouldn’t know exactly until op gets them shed tested or tried breeding.
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Oh wow, I didn’t realize super fires could look like that when combined with other genes. I guess this snake could be a super fire after all. I guess I just associate the word “leucistic” with an animal with a lot less colour, but it looks like that isn’t necessarily always the case.
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