Ball Pythons Clutch ID Help

Hello
So I am interested in what you all think my babies are. The pairing was an Enchi Fire 66% Het Clown X Enchi Paste Het Clown. Clearly, the Female proved out to be Het Clown, because there is a Clown. They hatched on November 7 and just shed out. What do you think’s in each one?

Baby #1:
This one is definitely Enchi, but it might have something else in it; however, I don’t think I can put my finger on it.




Baby #2:
This one, I am thinking it might be an Enchi Fire Pastel 66% Het Clown






Baby #3
Guessing this one’s a Pastel with maybe Fire, but is definitely Pastel.






Baby #4
This one might be Enchi Fire?






Baby #5
This one, I’m thinking, is just a Clown.





If you need photos of the parents, I can take some. The only ones I have are like a year old, so I’d need to take new ones.

Thanks in advance for all your help!
@armiyana @cmsreptiles @caron @ddolata @noodlehaus

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Congrats on proving her out as het clown. :grinning:
So yeah every non-clown is a 66% het as the easy part.
Fire can be so subtle when they first hatch out and brightens after a little more time to color up. Enchi, fire and pastel can all vary so much in expression as well. :face_with_spiral_eyes:
I can absolutely be wrong on a couple so take my IDs with a grain of salt. Lol.

1 (super?) enchi pastel

2 super enchi fire pastel

3 pastel

4 enchi fire

5 clown pos fire

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Alrighty here is what I see:

1- Pastel Enchi. Not thinking Super Enchi as other Supers have much more merging on the alien heads and a lot more banding across the back.

2- Firefly Enchi, a really pretty example too :slight_smile:

3- Pastel, possibly Firefly but I’d give that one a little more time to color out. Could just be a nice Pastel.

4- This is the one I’m personally thinking is Super Enchi Fire, as compared to #1 the banding across the back is more prevalent and the Alienheads are broader.

5- Single gene Clown :slight_smile:

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Thanks for the tag @jeremiah-rogers Jeremiah! Unfortunately I am not well versed in morph ids but thank you for the compliment anyhoo!

Those are phenomenal babies though! I would be happy with any one of them! :clap::ok_hand::+1::star_struck:

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Hahah, I am distracted by the pretty colors and worried about the varying expressions in all of these genes. Your ID is probably much more accurate

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I get it lol, I feel like aweing over babies can get the better judgement of me sometimes too :laughing:

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Thanks so much to all of you for your help! I think @cmsreptiles is probably right. I will try to send follow-up photos of them after a few more sheds. In a way I am kinda bummed out that the only visual clown I got was just a single gene Clown, but still really nice to prove out the female, and clowns are pretty, so I can’t be too mad lol.

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Keep an eye on that clown tho. The blushing around the neck does look a bit like the blushing on a fire clown. Fire can be a slow burn and get better as they age.

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Will do! I am personally thinking that I might hold back the clown and maybe the Firefly Enchi or the Super Enchi Fire (if it is super). Also, it depends on which ones are male or female…

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