Beginner Snake Owner

Hello! I’m someone who wants to own a pet snake! I’m a beginner, but I would like to own a large snake with some girth that doesn’t bite or rarely bites. (Not like 10 feet or anything…maybe 5-7 feet.)
I’ve had my eye on getting a Boa Constrictor Imperator for a little while…but I want to know what I’m doing before I buy one. I do NOT want to be someone who dumps animals…or mistreat them due to inexperience.
I have held a couple snakes…and knew people who owned them…but I have never owned one myself. I want to make sure I 110% know what I’m doing.

So…that being said…is a Boa Constrictor Imperator a good beginner snake? What other reccomendations are there?
What should I know about taking care of snakes, and what equipment should I have?
Any lingo or language I should know in the snake community?
Any good places in south PA to pick up snake handling skills?

And yes, I do know some stuff.
Snakes live a long time…so I’ll be in it for the long haul. Lots of feeding and cleaning tanks.
Snakes cost money. And time.
Be prepared to handle odd foods. (Such as rats.)
You can still get bit, even if it’s rare.
Females are bigger than males. (At least…for the species I’ve looked at.)

So…thank you for the help! Have a great day!

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Edit: There’s been a lot of discourse around this comment, just editing this to say I don’t plan to respond to any more of it as I wasn’t intending to spark debate and was simply trying to throw in my opinion on the subject matter. I absolutely get nobody is ill intentioned of course, just adding this to clarify my stance and such! Not against discourse at all, just personally not interested in continuing it here. Best of luck to all folks with your snake endeavours! <3

I love the enthusiasm for a new snake! I own a boa and they’re fantastic snakes, that being said I do not think they would be a good beginner snake. They’re large- they can get to 40 pounds and be anywhere from 6-9 feet long. They grow fast and have highly specialised diets due to their adult size and thus can be expensive to feed- they’re also prone to obesity.

That being said, I think a ball python is closer to what you’re looking for! They’re a chunky snake, around 3-6 feet (3-5 for males, 4-6 for females), are known for having fantastic temperament, personally I’ve owned my fair share of ball pythons and have only had one that used to be nippy when she was a baby (she’s grown out of it lol). I’d highly recommend speaking to whatever seller you buy from on MorphMarket to ensure the ball python you’d get has a good temperament and is eating well on unscented frozen thawed rats or mice (whatever your preference). If you can get all that confirmed, they’re lovely snakes! Adult females need roughly a 120 gallon, while adult males can be good in a 75 gallon (some people may suggest smaller, personally I think any smaller would be sacrificing the animals quality of life). Best of luck!

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Not all this is necessarily true.

Some boas can get quite large. But boas have a huge natural range and are comprised of multiple species, subspecies, and localities, and there’s a huge amount of size variety there. Generally boas from Mexico and Central America are smaller, while boas from South America tend to be larger. The smallest localities from Mexico (Tarahumera Mountain boas and Sonoran boas) typically stay under 6’, even for a female. The Tarahumera boas don’t get much longer than a ball python. And they probably weigh considerably less than an adult ball.

Boas also grow pretty slowly compared to many colubrids and pythons. My blood python was more or less adult size by age 3, but my boa is still very much a juvenile at 2.5. I don’t expect my boa to be near maturity for at least another 2-ish years.

I also wouldn’t say boas are really more expensive to feed, even the larger localities. As adults, they’re only going to eat maybe once a month at most…which can still add up if you have a bunch of boas, but I spend way more money feeding my cats every month than I do feeding my three snakes of various species and sizes. I also wouldn’t say boas have a specialized diet. Most will be fine eating rats their whole lives, they really don’t need to be fed actual livestock like some of the true giant constrictors. That said, they’re not picky and will happily accept a variety of prey. And while it’s certainly true that boas can be prone to obesity, that’s also the case for virtually every other snake species in the hobby. Humans just like to overfeed their pets in general.

A lot of these are common misperceptions about boas that I used to believe myself before researching them more, so I just wanted to clear that up.

OP: I think a boa could be a great first snake. In many ways, I think boas are potentially better beginner’s snakes than ball pythons, mainly because most boas are not going to give you the same feeding headaches as most ball pythons. Boas tend to be GREAT eaters that will reliably eat f/t rodents.

But that reliable eating does come with a caveat, especially for beginners, which is that you’ll need to learn to manage that feeding response. A boa is more likely to bite you thinking your hand is food than a ball python. But if you do tap training and learn to read your snake’s body language, I think it’s very manageable, even for a beginner.

Before getting a boa, you should also ask yourself how big a snake you can realistically house and manage. Your answer to that question will help determine what type of boa is right for you. Do be aware that most morph boas are “mutts” comprised of a variety of different localities, so their adult size can be somewhat unpredictable. If size is really important to you, you’re probably going to want to look at pure locality boas from breeders who work with that stuff and look into getting a “dwarf” or smaller locality. If size isn’t a big concern for you, then just go wild and get whatever catches your eye.

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To be clear, I’m not saying that ball pythons are bad beginner’s snakes. But when we’re talking about boas vs. balls for a beginner, I think the beginner should ask themself this question: are you more unnerved by the idea of a snake striking at you because it thinks your hand is food, or are you more unnerved by the idea of your snake potentially refusing to eat for weeks or months at a time? There’s no “right” answer to that question, it just depends on you as an individual. If you’re more unnerved by misplaced feeding strikes, then I’d probably recommend a ball python over a boa. If you’re more unnerved by your pet refusing food, I’d recommend a boa over a ball.

Some other species I think can make great beginner’s snakes are corn snakes, Kenyan sand boas, and rosy boas. Those species all stay a very manageable size, are hardy, generally docile, and tend to be great eaters. They’re also readily available captive bred and are pretty reasonably priced. Milk snakes are really beautiful and fairly easy to care for, though they tend to be more flighty and prone to musking as babies than the others I mentioned. Hognose snakes are adorable and can make good beginner’s snakes, though they can be finicky eaters when they’re young. The Antaresia genus of pythons (Children’s/spotted/Stimson’s/pygmy pythons) seem to be getting more popular and like they could be a good first snake. They’re the world’s smallest pythons, and their care seems pretty accessible.

Just wanted to throw some other options out there, because there are a whole lot more choices than just boa vs. ball. And this is by no means an exhaustive list, I’m sure there are many more good beginner species that I’m not even able to come up with right now.

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Sorry to clarify, I meant specifically BCCs and BCIs- should’ve specified. I’m aware that it’s not the species itself that’s obesity prone and more that due to the slow metabolisms people tend to accidentally over feed them. Main thing is that boas require a lot more money and research than ball pythons which is why unless a person is super interested in boas specifically I wouldn’t necessarily recommend one. A great alternative is a sand boa- I’ve found they’re very friendly, eat well, get very girthy as adults while maintaining a very manageable size, and are very pretty. Boa constrictors are great but personally I think to be considered as a beginner option there’d need to be a lot of research done to ensure proper care as it’s very common for people to buy one and either get rid of it or not be able to give proper care

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I’m not sure why a boa would require any more money or research than any other snake. A larger boa is going to be more expensive to feed and house, just because larger animal = larger expenses. That’s true for any animal. But a small to medium boa should not be more expensive to feed or house than a ball python. I guess a dwarf boa would cost more to purchase upfront than a normal ball python?

I’m also not sure why a ball python would require any less research than a boa. I’d argue that anyone thinking about getting a species they haven’t kept before should be doing extensive research, regardless of what that species is. Ball pythons get dumped all the time by people who didn’t properly research the species. In fact, I’d argue that balls get dumped more often than boas, just because balls tend to be more readily available for ill-conceived impulse buys from pet shops. Any animal purchase should be heavily researched and considered.

Sorry, I’m not trying to be argumentative, I just really dislike the notion that there are only 3-4 species you can choose from for your first snake and that everyone needs to start with a ball python, a corn snake, or a sand boa. OP has stated an interest in boas and has given no indication they’re unable or unwilling to do the necessary research. Quite the contrary, in fact.

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Honestly, that’s extremely true for ball pythons. People get sick of them being picky and get bored with them.

And just to add this, my first snake was a boa constrictor. I got him as a baby at 15. I personally believe that they are honestly the best first beginner snake. The only caveat that I would add to them is that a person should want a larger snake. Males do not get huge and by the time that they are a larger size, you are very comfortable with them.

My males right now is 5‘9“ and weighs 8 lbs and he is 7 1/2 years old. He is the most puppy dog tame snake that I’ve ever met.

In addition, I now own seven boas all of various ages and sizes. I have met one highly defensive boa in my life, and in my history of keeping…and that boa just needed some socialization. All of my boas are extremely handle and wonders to hold.

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@hartwincuthbert bro, you definitely should get a boa. Honestly, I would recommend that you get the gender that you want. You can get either a male or a female. If you feed them every 10 to 14 days, they’re not going to get super huge. And you’re gonna have a best friend of a snake for a long time.

As I said in my previous post, I have seven boas. I started my snake keeping when I was 15 years old and I started with a male boa. He is now 7 years old and about 6 feet.

My friend, if you want to boa, you definitely should get one. You will get used to the size and they don’t grow fast enough for you to not be able to manage it. They are amazing snakes, and have wonderful temperaments. They will always eat for you and their care is actually really easy once you know what they need.

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This is not true. Boas do not grow fast and they do not have specialized diets. Just like with any snake, it’s going to benefit the owner to buy bulk. So you order your rodents online like from rodentpro or perfectprey. Once they are adults, they probably need a large rat or an extra large rat every 2 to 4 weeks. If you end up with a larger boa after 10+ years, maybe you would have to order a rabbit and they eat once a month….you can overfeed them sure, but just give them a fast…no big deal. It is simple as thawing them and using appropriate size tongs, putting it in front of the snake, they take it and they eat it.

end of story.

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Gotcha!

I’m going to do my research into tap training and reading snake body language/feeding responses. I’ll also consider and measure the space I have on hand. (I have a room that’ll house the tank that I have to clear up, since it’s a bit messy.)

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Good to know! Hopefully with some research under my belt and the right setup, I’ll be able to have myself a scaly best friend one day!

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Boas do not require more money than ball pythons and in my experience ball pythons require just as much. Not sure where you’re getting your information on boas but I’d suggest real experience. Boas are great beginner snakes and I will always recommend a boa over a ball python any day.

@hartwincuthbert lots of good info here, ypu wont regret a boa :+1:

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As a general rule, boas are not as finicky as ball pythons can be when it comes to eating. This is a big plus imho!

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Tap training is pretty simple. You basically just touch (or “tap”) the snake gently with a snake hook before reaching into the enclosure with your hands. This tells them they’re not getting fed, so they know not to strike at your hands. It gives them something with no heat signature and a neutral smell (in other words, something that does not have any “prey” properties) to interact with first…and if they get excited and strike at it anyway, well, then at least it wasn’t your hand. :joy: But having that initial interaction be with an object that is sort of neutral and “boring” helps to “turn off” their feeding response.

My boa, like most boas, loves to eat, so she’s usually pretty amped up when I first open her enclosure. But I’ll usually gently touch the top of her head a couple times with the snake hook, then I’ll use the hook to rub under her chin a little, and she settles down pretty quickly. Then she’s good to go and I can pick her up, clean, change water, etc. without having to worry about taking a bite.

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Get one young, either baby or 1 year old…noted!

Cool! (I’ve created a document to jot down everything I’m learning here.)
It won’t be for a while, since I need to research and set everything up…but I think I’m on the boa train!

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I’m not saying there’s a set list of snakes, just stating my opinion on if it’s a good beginner snake as was asked. I say more research because the amount of times I’ve seen people spreading truly awful care info about boas specifically is incredibly frequent- and yes when I say more expensive I do mean enclosure and food size, as those are more expensive (especially since for an adult boa, even a dwarf one, the average commercially built enclosure simply is not big enough and would need to be custom built. An adult boa can’t live in a 120 gallon, maybe a dwarf could live in a 6 foot enclosure but definitely not an adult). Again it’s just my opinion, there are many different snake species that are great beginners, op was asking if people thought a boa was a good beginner and what other options there were so I’m throwing in my 2 cents. If someone is fully fully prepared for the adult size of a boa and is fully prepared to accomodate the needs of one, then I’d say go

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By specialised diet I mean large prey items as you stated, again I’m just speaking from my experience with boa owning I’ve found they get pretty big pretty quick, my boa has tripled in size in the span of one year. They’re great snakes, just require extra steps and money compared to others. Speaking solely from my own opinion and experience and not looking to start any debates on it necessarily, just my 2 cents

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