There is also Hannum Hypos that are From the Stillwater line and they have blue saddles when they are born and the real nice ones keep the bluish grey saddles. John Hannum has been working on this to try and figure out what exactly he has (I think he has been at it for over 5yrs.) This was a complete surprise, as they were purchased from Envy Reptiles (Jason), grown up, bred and thats what came out and no one really knows how or why? (Main reason is, not keeping good records of whats what and whom you put with whom?)
Here are a few pics to help see what I talking about.
There is another version of this morph, however there only happens to be one of them currently for the last few years. The other morph version is the same except you would replace the bright orange for a bright yellow. I have only seen a picture of it once and Jason from Envy had produced it once again but did not realize what he had until it was too late. He ended up having to buy back some of his hatchlings and has yet been able to reproduce said morph. Jason calls his yellow version digitized because thats what it reminds him of. Hopefully some day we will have an opportunity to own such animal.
Hopefully some others chime in…
PS thanks for working on this!!
After making my last post on here, I thought I would try and find out all I could find out about Envy’s (Jason) digitized pit. It turns out I was mistaken on its linage, this particular animal is from the Trumbower Hypo line and not Stillwater Hypo I originally thought. Jason was breeding in one of his red lines and this is another morph that Jason had to buy back his own stock because they didnt start showing these colors until a few sheds in. I also managed to find this pic. She is an absolute stunner! You can just see her blue/grey saddles and bright yellow back ground!!
For the crumbles in my original post I had stated they were Stillwater but I think John told me Trumbower.
The red + albino + SW hypo is what started the project. Then line bred.
I am not sure how much I am or can be but I will do what I can to help the section of the hobby as it desperately needs!! And Thank You for all your help and what you do on here!!
Anyway line bred would be to take the best looking, best pattern, brightest color, etc. and breed together to make even better looking, better pattern, brighter color, etc. So what I was saying is they are most likely dbl, triple or even quad hets pending how many times bred etc.
PS: I have been in touch with John Hannum and have asked if would give his input on his Hannum Hypos. He said he would try. I sent him a link to this category.
Will also need to add both Tiger and Zipper since these are becoming more common. Tiger is a recessive trait. I can’t speak for Zipper but my understanding is it is more of a line bred trait. As for some of the combo names, it seems they change depending on who you ask. Could be difficult to pin down exactly what the combo consists of, especially with snows or blizzards.
Hypo snow whiteside
Or
hypo snow whiteside patternless
Or
Hypo snow patternless
The difficult thing is when you have a white snake its hard to tell exactly what’s involved unless the genetics are guaranteed. I believe the blizzard is supposed to be all 5 genes though. Hypo Snow Whiteside patternless.
I think it would be best to get Jason Nelson at Envy reptiles involved and get his input on all of it for the combo titles. Otherwise it may be best to just keep it at the basic morph names instead of using combo names.
