Changing substrate frequency?

I keep ball pythons in large rubs on coco husk and mini reptichip .
I spot clean the area of the poop usually taking a handful or two of the substrate out then spraying the area with cleaner before scrubbing it.
I only have nine snakes so catch a poop the same day every time.
However i know from when a bp has a toilet break in the play pen the amount of liquid is actually pretty hi .
So my spot cleaning can’t be getting it all out .
I realise that a full substrate change and sanitation of the enclosures should be done on a regular schedule but how often do people recommend?
when i have keep them on paper i would just change it every week and sanitised it but that would be too expensive for the repti chip so i have been planning on every two months but the amount of urates has got me worried .
I wouldn’t want to live in my own urine .
Any inputs welcome .

This question will get a large range of options. Everything from change it each time to spot clean and change out every 6 months. I have seen it all posted.

If spot cleaning and you remove all the wet areas as well as the dirty area, then you probably removed it all. Each snake is different, each keeper has different thoughts, and substrate is different and different amounts. You can go broke if you do a full charge every time.

I spot clean and change out as needed or if it needs more added. There is no set time i keep for a full change. I have done a full change and had to do it again within days. It all depends on the mess and the snake.

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Thanks for the reply , that makes sense about different snakes needing cleaning at different rates .
I have a big male who only eats every three weeks and very rarely makes any mess at all , in fact it’s almost suspicious :thinking:
Though he has a habit of pooping when not in his enclosure so maybe that’s his thing .
I suppose the main concern for me is that the coco husk might be masking the bio load of bacteria if left in for too long since there is never any smell .
In fact i go around opening all the tubs giving them a smell test every day trying to find out if anyone has had a toilet break .
My main concern is trying to avoid health problems.

This is a fantastic question because, as already mentioned, there is no one right answer.

The fact that you are cleaning within 24 hours of a mess is great. And the fact that you’re using a disinfectant on the affected area is even better. I assume you’re doing an excellent job of getting all the soiled substrate out. I assume there’s no odor after your spot cleaning. I believe you can go a very long time between full substrate changing. At the most frequent I personally would do twice a year.

To make it worth your while, try to time your full cleans to make it worth your while. For instance, if you are breeding, you know you’re going to want to do a full clean after your girls lay eggs.

Justin over at Kinova (actually it was probably back when they were JKR) put out a video talking about a lecture he heard from I believe the Barker’s at the . They said in the wild, BPs take up ambush in a rodent den. They basically stay there as long as food keeps coming by. Once they poop and/or shed in the den, they know no more rodents will come by because of the odor. The BP takes that time to go look for a fresh, rodent den free of BP poop scent. So in the wild, BPs may seek a clean ambush location after a poop. This is a great time to try and feed a stubborn BP that is on a hunger strike, after a poop/shed/full clean event. Anyway, to make it worth your while, only do a full clean after a poop. You know, kill two birds with one stone.

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Sounds like you are doing a fantastic job of husbandry. If they are feeding, breeding, good sheds and no health problems, you’re probably spot on.

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I do put deep clean down on the snakes feeding record just so i have some idea when it was last done . So far it’s after about three or four months and even then in two cases it was because i had over hydrated and parts of the herp chip were showing white mould .I have since had success moving the over damp stuff onto the heat if i catch it in time and it soon drys off the white bit. It’s not serious mould i an talking about here . Last thing i want is an ri or scale rot .

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