Confession: Escaped corn snake - feeling guilty

I hope you find her. I just joined the missing snake club too :upside_down_face:

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In @monty_pituophis’s thread it was suggested to put a pile of clothes etc. on the floor. Something that’s cozy to snuggle under……

And the flashlight @caryl is an absolute excellent idea. :+1::100::pray::blush::two_hearts::crossed_fingers:

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@monty_pituophis oh no! I’m so sorry your snake escaped. There were some good tips in that thread, I’m actually going to try leaving some more towels out for Ember to hide under and see if that helps. The missing snake club is a horrible, stressful club to be in. Sending good vibes to you! I hope you find her soon

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I’m so sorry about Ember’s escape! As others have said, try not to beat yourself up too badly, either about her escape or about not telling the community about her escape sooner. You weren’t being dishonest, you were just being optimistic.

Snakes are infamous for their escape abilities, and baby colubrids like corns are some of the worst offenders. It doesn’t make you a bad snake mom, it just makes you human. I live in near-constant fear of my snakes escaping. Fortunately, neither are of an especially escape-prone size right now (adult sand boa and subadult blood python), but it’s still something I worry about.

I really hope Ember turns up soon! And don’t lose hope. I’ve heard stories of snakes turning up months or even years after disappearing. They’re survivors. Ember is beautiful. I’ll be keeping my fingers crossed! :crossed_fingers:

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Thank you so much @jawramik :purple_heart: I really appreciate your kindness and support

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I have a question for the group: When Ember first escaped I scoured every forum and website for info. I read a couple comments (I don’t remember where) that someone’s lost snake showed up after they got another snake. Is this something that happens? I know snakes have a “territory” in the wild but I’m not sure if they’re particularly territorial. I ask because I’ve wanted a boa for a while, even when I still had Ember. I did end up purchasing one, and the breeder and I are currently coordinating shipment (it’s been so hot here that I’m not sure when it’ll be safe to ship, but hopefully soon). So in the near future, I will have another snake and I guess part of me hopes that this will cause Ember to show up, but I’m not sure if that’s even a realistic hope. What do y’all think?

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Other than some baby snakes and garters, most snakes aren’t proven to be sociable in that way, and another snake present is either competition for food, a potential mate, or a predator. I wouldnt bank on another snake drawing the first one out so much as the smell of rat being fed to that hypothetical other snake.
You could try going to that room at night and warming a thawed rat or mouse under a heat lamp in that room. without other lights, and sit quietly by. See if she pokes her head out to find out who’s fixing dinner.

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I know snakes aren’t social. It was just something I read and wondered if it’s a thing that happens. Maybe it was a one-off event for that particular person. I did try the warmed mouse multiple times. I’ve also tried braining and scenting with tuna juice. I’d sit in the dark for about an hour, completely quiet just waiting. Then I’d leave and in the morning I’d check and see if she at least ate. Unfortunately she didn’t show up, and the mouse always went uneaten

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That’s a great idea.

I would think that the person who had a lost snake reappear after getting another snake simply experienced a happy coincidence. The only logical exception I can think of would be a case of the snakes both being of breeding age (or who at least think they are). The escapee might show up then.

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I kinda figured it was more of a coincidence. But I thought I’d ask, just to see. I’ll keep looking for Ember and hopefully she shows up soon. I’m surprised food hasn’t attracted her. It’s been over 2 months since she’s eaten (unless she somehow found another source of food wherever she is)

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I’m rooting for you! Even a little corn can go months on end without food. Worst comes to worst, you can always buy some live pinkies and put them in a cage on the floor for a few days. If Ember’s still scooting about (which I’m almost certain of), she’ll come out for that. Especially if you put some hides/heat packs nearby, it’s bed and breakfast for a hungry snake.

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Thank you @monty_pituophis! (By the way, I’ve been meaning to tell you, I love your username!) I don’t like how long it’s been, but it’s good to know she’s most likely still alive somewhere. I’m not sure where I’d be able to get live pinkies. I’m also not sure what to do if I get them and find Ember. I really don’t like feeding live unless I absolutely have to (and luckily haven’t had to yet). However, I do feel like I’m running out of things to try. There aren’t any specialty/exotic pet stores near me, just the standard big-name pet stores

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Live pinks will not live long without their mother nursing them. I have bought live pinks that died before I even got them home……Fuzzies last a little longer……. :+1:

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This could be a totally bad idea, so I’ll let the experts weigh in.

Could it be useful to get a live mouse at the box pet store and set it up in a small temp cage in a safe corner, with hides or bottle traps around it? Perhaps the scent, smell, and sounds of moving prey would attract Ember to the area?
Of course then you’d have a live mouse to care for and ultimately decide what to do with, so maybe not super viable as an options, but figured I’d throw it out there

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I appreciate the suggestion. The reason I haven’t done that (or gotten live feeders) is because I don’t want to have to care for the mice. I know nothing about rodent care and I don’t want to take on that responsibility with zero knowledge. I do my best to give every animal I decide to get the best life - with proper housing, food/water, enrichment, exercise, interaction, love etc. I worry I won’t be able to provide that for a mouse/mice. Also money is a thing - money for a mouse enclosure, bedding, food, water, enrichment, etc. A dog and snakes is about all I can handle at the moment. Adding another animal, especially one that I don’t know much about, is more stress than I can handle. And I just don’t like the idea of getting an animal on a whim. Mice are living creatures too and deserve the best home - whether they’re raised as pets or feeders

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If you can get your hands on some used rodent bedding, that has just as much smell as a live rodent and could give you the same result.

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@noodlehaus I was actually thinking about that yesterday. I do need to make a run to the pet store for dog food this week, and I was thinking of asking if they would let me have some used mouse bedding. Would I put the bedding inside the bottle trap? Or in something like a Ziploc with holes poked in it for the smell to get out? I don’t want her to eat it

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She’s unlikely to eat the bedding itself, it has no heat signature or movement which would induce the feeding response. Bottle trap would work, otherwise maybe in something like an open critter keeper or bin with a hide, see if you can’t lure her in looking for food and make her want to stay.

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Okay, it’s definitely worth a shot. I’m not sure when I’ll make it to the store, might be the end of this week. But I’ll keep everyone updated. Thank you for the suggestion!

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We’re all rooting for you both! Anything is worth a try.

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