Gene addition "true patternless" in Fire Skinks (Mochlus Fernandi)

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Gene Request Form

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Facts

Species:
African Fire Skink: Mochlus Fernandi
Name of Gene:
Heterozygous- True Patternless
Homozygous- Colbalt
First produced by whom:
Gene originally imported as wild individuals, later proven to have the super form “cobalt” (coined by Mike Schultz in 2016) proven by Richard Valdez & Avery Avezzie through captive pairings.
Year First Produced:
First cbb produced in 2019 (some may have been earlier but 2020 was the first recorded)
Genetics Type (Incdom/Codom/Recessive/Polygenic/etc):
Incomplete Dominate
In complex with other genes?:
No
Other names/aliases for it?:
None
Description:

Appearance; What it does/looks like?

  • Head: normal looking head with faded almost “airbrushed” looking side pattern leading to the main body
  • Body: the main body of the animal will have zero pattern, though rarely, some individuals have paradox spots.
  • Belly: flat white/pinkish belly
  • Tail: The most important tell of a true patternless is every individual that carries the gene has a solid line marking down the center of its tail. The lines going down the tail on mature adults are straight, unbroken lines.

Proven Lines:
“Prism line” fire skinks by Skinks Inc.
Related Genes:
Nul
Proven: To what degree it is proven out to not just be polygenic?
Multiple pairings accross several unrelated individuals
Unique: Why do you believe this is a new morph and not an existing one?
New to MorphMarket, unmongst others soon to be added but not necessarily new all together
Problems: Any problems? None
History: The history behind its discovery?
-stated previously
Disagreement or Controversy:
The first individual to produce a cobalt in captivity made the false assumption that it was melaninism, which was later proven incorrect as the animals aged and became a more bronzy color, losing all of the black pigment. True melaninism was said to be discovered tears earlier but the individuals were lost after their breeder was arrested.
References here on the community:
@Skinksinc / @aves_of_the_apes

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  • Link to WOBP if one exists.
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Adult Female

Juvenile

Hatchling

Normal

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Gene Request Form

Please fill the below form out to the best of your ability. Answers do not need to be lengthy. If appropriate you may forward this request to someone who is more able to supply the answers.

Facts

Species:
African Fire Skink: Mochlus Fernandi
Name of Gene:
Cobalt
First produced by whom:
Gene originally imported as wild individuals, thought to be the super form of patternless named “cobalt” (coined by Mike Schultz in 2016) proven later by Richard Valdez & Avery Avezzie through captive pairings.
Year First Produced:
First cbb produced in 2019 (some may have been earlier but 2020 was the first recorded)
Genetics Type (Incdom/Codom/Recessive/Polygenic/etc):
Incomplete Dominate
In complex with other genes?:
In combination with “Anery” a Recessive gene in Fire skinks, creates a “Prism” which is a visual patternless anery, the super form being a “Phantom” fire skink, a visual anery cobalt.
Other names/aliases for it?:
None
Description:

Appearance; What it does/looks like?

  • Head: dark grey/brown head with pronounced orange “duck beak like” marking around the mouth
  • Body: the main body of the animal is dark brown/gold throughout with not beginning or end to a pattern. The body will have zero pattern, though rarely, some individuals have orange paradox spots.
  • Belly: flat grey/pinkish belly
  • Tail: The most important tell of is every individual that carries the gene has a solid line marking down the center of its tail. The lines going down the tail on mature afults are straight, unbroken lines.

Proven Lines:
“Prism line” fire skinks by Skinks Inc.
Mel line by Richard Valdez
Related Genes:
Nul
Proven: To what degree it is proven out to not just be polygenic?
Multiple pairings accross several unrelated individuals with consistent results.
Unique: Why do you believe this is a new morph and not an existing one?
New to MorphMarket, unmongst others soon to be added but not necessarily new all together
Problems: Any problems? None
History: The history behind its discovery?
-stated previously
Disagreement or Controversy:
The first individual to produce a cobalt in captivity made the false assumption that it was melaninism, which was later proven incorrect as the animals aged and became a more bronzy color, losing all of the black pigment. True melaninism was said to be discovered years earlier but the individuals were lost after their breeder was arrested and the animals were lost.
References here on the community:
@Skinksinc / @aves_of_the_apes

  • At least one link to community discussion (ie forums) to demonstrate community acceptance
  • Link to WOBP if one exists.
  • Links to the wider web.
    Please attach at least 3 photos you have rights to which you are granting to be used on MorphMarket, Including 1 image next to a Normal/WT animal


Adult

Adult

Hatchlings produced by Richard Valdez

Normal

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So I am a bit confused. This is the homozygous form of patternless?

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Yes that is correct, patternless to patternless will produce a cobalt.

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so when creating a gene request, the homozygous still is put on the same page as the heterozygous. So would you be able to go back and add some of the info from here to the patternless gene request?

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So I edited it a bit as what you put for “In complex with other genes” were combos of unrelated genes.

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