Help Identifying new snakes

Hello everyone and thank you in advance for your help. I am new to ball pythons and my son and I have purchased two females. We were told snake 1 was a firefly and snake 2 was a cinnamon. After doing our own research we are not so sure. After poking around in the posts here and seeing how helpful the community is, I thought I would post some pics here and get some opinions.

Snake 1 firefly?


Snake 2 cinnamon?


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Very pretty bps! I can’t help you but there are lots of other people here who can and will. So glad you found us @dmsully! You are certainly at the right place for questions and answers!

Have a great Labor Day! :blush::sunglasses:

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Both look improperly IDed by the seller, not so sure on snake one although it might have at least some pastel in it. Snake two is way off, a cinnamon would be darker, richer, have a more prominent dark dorsal with a black top of head, no blushing. I can’t put my finger on throwing out any morphs since I can’t see the pictures too well and I’m not good at free throw guessing morphs whatsoever, best of luck though!

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So I will go out on a limb and say snake #2 Is some kind of pastel? Maybe Mojave pastel?

I’m sure I am way off lol! :joy:

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I can pretty confidently say, as someone who is horrible at ball python morphs, you are wayyyyyy off :rofl:

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Lol! Well thank you so much for confirming my inability to even guess morphs! :joy::rofl::joy: But of course I love you anyway! :smiling_face_with_three_hearts::heart:

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Thank you all for the warm replies. Seems that I was right in my initial thought that they were mis-identified. I will try and get some better pics to maybe helpl.

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Yes @dmsully please do provide some more detailed pictures because I would love to see just exactly how far off with my guess is on BP number two,right @logar Logan? Lol :joy::rofl::joy:

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This is a pastel Mojave :rofl::joy:

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As stated me and @caron are both HORRIBLE when it comes to morphs (for ball pythons anyway) but at least to me it looks almost DG. I am almost positive I am wrong because a cinnamon is wayyyyy cheaper than DG and there is no way a breeder would be selling a DG as a cinnamon but still🤔

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Well, if snake number 2 was a little more brown and a little less yellow then it could be a pm……

C’mon Logan, give a little old lady a break! :joy::joy::joy::joy::joy::joy::pray:

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Welllllllll you might be right @logar! But we both still need to go to Morph school……. :rofl::rofl::rofl::joy::joy::joy:

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But thank you so much for the photo! That’s lesson #1 for me!!! :clap::clap::clap::clap:

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Also don’t forget the pattern, blushing etc!

What time does class start?!?! Pretty much the only class I would actually enjoy :rofl:

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Yeah! Only because it would be with me! Ok I’m done or we’ll have to start another thread! Lol! :joy: Thanks for making my evening Logan!!! :heart:

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I’m going to jump into the ring here before any additional pictures come in and say that #1 looks like it may have fire in it but with the disclaimer that I am still in need of attending a morph school with @caron and @logar

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Come on in with us @gina5678! We would absolutely love to have you! :heart::smiling_face_with_three_hearts::+1::pray:.

After all, The “Morph” the merrier! :face_with_open_eyes_and_hand_over_mouth::wink:

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I think I need a seat in the class as well! Where do I sign up!
Here are some additional pics, hopefully these are a little better
snake 1


snake 2


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Well @dmsully, I can for sure say those guys are beautiful and healthy looking! Snake number two looks different to me this time, not nearly as pastel? Actually it looks more like the picture that @logar provided for me! Lol!

Ok so other than the “beautiful” and “healthy” I am at a loss! Lol! Please somebody jump in here for IDs! :pray::pray::pray::pray::pray:

And @dmsully pull up a chair! You are now a part of the class! :wink::+1::sunglasses::smiling_face_with_three_hearts::clap:

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I have my thoughts but I am probably completely wrong

@wreckroomsnakes @armiyana @akmorphs @ascended can probably be a lot more helpful

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