Plemnt
I said it was a possibility. I also said a possibility is that the sire is bamboo instead of butter, which is absolutely true.
You are correct about not getting retained sperm from two different males in the same offspring. That’s why I said it was MUCH more likely that the banana sire is bamboo.
Plenty of people do not know how to ID their own animals - I spend half my time reporting ads on MM for incorrect IDs. I mean no disrespect, but you are currently an example of that. These babies are bamboo. That is so plain and obvious to see that it’s painful. You are incorrectly identifying them based on pairing info that is obviously incorrect, because it’s what you “expect” the babies to be. They are not what you expect - they are bamboo.
Once again, I would stake my business on this. OP, I encourage you to test the babies - I would even help you fund a test. These babies are bamboo. If @t_h_wyman’s process of elimination is correct in that it can’t be retained sperm because those babies also include genes from the banana sire, and that the sire can’t be both bamboo AND butter because of pattern (which I think is possible but also unlikely), the only two remaining options are that the sire was mis-identified as butter when he is in fact bamboo, or that bamboo or a bamboo-like mutation randomly cropped up in your clutch. Of the two options, the sire being bamboo makes A LOT more sense. But either way, you have bamboo in babies, no matter where it came from. #2, #3, and #7 are all bamboo combos. I encourage you to test them to confirm, but the bamboo mutation is right there to see.
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Going on the assumption that the sire is bamboo INSTEAD of butter and was just mis-IDed as butter, we’re looking at dad being a banana bamboo pastel pinstripe rather than a banana butter pastel pinstripe.
Dad:
Comparisons of other banana bamboo pastel pinstripes:
Almost identical to dad. Dad is bamboo, babies are bamboo, dad was mis-IDed. You CANNOT trust that breeders know how to ID, because many of them do not. I spent nearly a year memorizing and studying morphs before I ever started breeding. These babies are bamboo. It is ridiculous to pretend they are not when we can see the mutation right there.
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Ok so the dad is a butter not bamboo. I’m saying this because has butter liter Mates. According to breeder. Now I’m saying the daddy gene could be in both animals in a het don’t know the linage of cinnamon so it is possible. That’s why I’m saying could have. Daddy babies look crazy with just pastel. I’m just throwing it out there. because the parent animals are easy to see butter and bamboo are way different. The male snakes parents. Next time number 7 sheds I will be sending it out. For the rest I don’t want people to fight really just wanted to play a percents game and give breeders higher percent in my averaging to see. I will be keeping 7,1,2,3 that what I think I’m going to to. Please keep guessing and remember till Kevin ,Justin or Mike or one of those mega breeders that have hatched 100000 snakes says what it is us hobby folk just don’t know that’s why the DNA tests help.
I really strongly recommend testing these babies for bamboo. They are not butter or daddy, they are bamboo. I’ve said my piece, I’ll leave it at that.
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I’m going to test 7 for sure and the dad we will know. I thank you for your input I truly do the breeder of the banana said it’s bamboo as well just not from his end. Thanks
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