I just got a couple snakes from a friend and I’m not sure about the morphs that he told me they were. Here are a couple pics of them, is anyone able to verify/correct the morphs? Thank you.
Also please not that these are not their permanent homes, they are TEMPORARY because I got home really late last night and it was cold out so I just had to get them into warm bins before I crashed in bed. They’ll be moved to appropriate enclosures today.
Het Pastel (which I’m confused about since Pastel is dominant so there’s no het)
Arroyo (but all the research I’ve done says Arroyo doesn’t produce grey snakes… I’m thinking maybe this one is Grey Matter? But it doesn’t have any pied spots so idk)
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Pastel is correct for the first one. You’re correct that “het” pastel isn’t the usual way that people refer to incomplete dominant genes, but it is technically correct. Het is just short for heterozygous, meaning one copy of the gene. For pastel, the gene is visual with just one copy, so we just say pastel, but technically saying it is heterozygous pastel is correct as well. Most folks use ‘het’ to refer to an animal carrying one copy of a recessive gene that isn’t visual, but that’s snake breeding terminology specific and het pastel = single gene pastel = pastel.
As for the second snake, grey matter is a good guess. It is definitely not arroyo, or at least is possibly arroyo in addition to multiple other genes. It is definitely, based on the shape of the snout, super black pastel or super cinnamon. I’d say adding champagne to that is a good guess.
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Agreeing with @inspirationexotics about the morphs though it may help to have that first one in better lighting just in case there could be something else that was missed.
As for the second snake I’d like to add that it is pretty noticeably underweight… what was their history? And how old is the second snake?
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For the second snake, I do agree that noodle looks in rough shape.
I’m going to offer a second possible combo as well. I don’t agree with grey matter. This one to me looks super pastel super cinnamon. The freckles of yellow also appear in that combo, not in grey matter.
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The second snake has a pretty big kink above her tail (inadvertently covered up in the photo), so her previous owner wasn’t feeding her very much so she would have less trouble pooping. I’m going to try feeding her smaller, more frequent meals to get her weight up. I’m not sure how old they are.
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It’s always rough when someone is well meaning but not quite meeting standards. As a heads up you will need to keep an eye on this girl in case she does ever attempt a partho clutch. She could end up eggbound. It’s rare enough already, but I have stupid dumb luck so I have had some odd events happen. Just good to be aware.
For the feedings, definitely small and more often. I had 2 that I was feeding every 4-5 days at less than their body width because of different medical reasons. One was a recovering severe burn snake who still eats smaller meals. The other was a snake with a kink I needed to make sure was capable of eating/pooping.
I didn’t really wait to see poop between feeding, but did make sure to check for any signs of bloating or impaction. If they started looking a bit thick or ready to shed I would hold off a bit.
Once you get a good handle on how she’s eating and she’s got a better weight you can slowly size up a little or scale back on feedings as needed.
I hope she does well for you!
Thank you for the advice! I will definitely keep a close eye on her. She’s never been paired with a male for obvious reasons but yeah, partho clutches are always a possibility, albeit rare. I’ll probably start her off on weaned rats and see how she does.
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Awe thats unfortunate, though I’m relieved that the low weight wasn’t from pure neglect.
Definitely offer smaller meals more often and see how the BP does, and if she does have a hard time reduce the frequency until you find the right schedule for her… I hope she does well for you 
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