Help with ID in first photo

Hi all new to the hobby of breeding ball pythons, looking for some help with this little girl please. Everyone I have asked so far have agreed she is fire 100% het clown even the reptile store I took them to be sexed agreed fire. She is a little wriggly so it’s hard to get a good photo off her and my lighting isn’t great, I tried to attach the photo that shows the head stamp the best. My add was taken down on MorphMarket because they don’t think she has fire. Paring was banana cinnamon fire clown x pastel. I will attach pictures of other siblings too. All 100% het clown we have a pewter, banana cinnamon, banana fire, banana pewter and a cinnamon. Thank you for any help






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Someone correct me if I’m wrong but I dont think I see fire in any of these babies except for maybe #5.

1 looks like a Normal to me.

2 Pewter

3 Banana Cinnamon

4 Banana

5 Pewter Fire

6 Cinnamon

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Picture 1 looks normal to me as well. Beautiful babies :raised_hands:

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Hi thank you, I’ve searched MorphMarket about baby 5 she seems to me to be banana pewter. As for the one you labeled as banana single gene I’m genuinely unsure but I’ve been told by quite a few people he’s banana fire. I’m unsure how to identify fire yet in multi genes. Thank you for all help again

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I’m not seeing anything in that first picture to indicate there is fire in that animal. It looks like a normal or wild type to me also.

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I’m not seeing any indication of #5 being Banana, its color is really muted and has no bright yellows that a Banana Pewter should have and the back is pretty dark brown. It may be the lighting and image quality as I know some cameras can’t
really pick up yellows that well but thats my educated opinion comparing #5 with Banana Pewters vs Pewter Fires on MM.

As for the “single gene” Banana it could possibly be Fire too but again I just see Banana.

Fire is a tricky gene to ID as it doesn’t have very obvious phenotype markers as other morphs do, if you really want to you could use RGI shed testing on the suspected Fire babies to see if they do indeed have it.

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#1 is a normal

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