ID help- Cinnamon or no cinnamon

Hello! I’ve asked in FB morph identification groups but figured I’d ask here as well.

I have the choice between two clutchmates.
Parents were super mojave het ultramel x cinnamon ultramel.

So #1 and #4 are at the very least mojave ultramels, BUT there’s a chance that they might have cinnamon.

Is there anyone more familiar with cinnamon that can tell me if either of these girls have it or not?

Thank you :slight_smile:


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Honestly, going by the patterning I am inclined to believe both carry Cinnamon

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I love the crazy pattern and color on the first one. And that one definitely looks to have cinnamon with the way the pattern is making the little chain on the side.

Travis has a better eye though. I’m still a little green with my IDs

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I do believe they are Cinnamon and Ultramel, but I’m not so sure with Mojave on the second picture… the alienheads on Mojave will have keyholes and the second one doesn’t appear to really have any though they seemed to be really faint on the first one so I could be wrong :woman_shrugging:

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Disclaimer, I really am not good at ID. I think first is more likely cinnamon. I don’t have experience with cinnamon in ultramels but would still look for a diluted eye stripe if a side of head picture is available. Frankly I would have thought Mojave and cinnamon would break down the pattern more so maybe neither are cinnamon? Too bad we don’t have a cinnamon test yet to go with enchi and a couple black pastel types.

I know, the lack of keyholes in the second is really throwing me off and had me questioning too.
Might just have to shed test mom once I get her.

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You don’t have a photo of mom? Super Mojo is a BEL. So should be pretty easy to see what’s going on. Although she can still be Mojave x russo or butter/Lesser if she’s a clean white.

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Here’s a pic of mom- her head leaves me inclined to believe that she’s a super mojave. That’s what the seller advertised her as, but since they didn’t produce her it’s possible that she’s mislabled.

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Mom does look to be super Mojave. They tend to yellow on the body like that as well.

There’s a lot of polymorphic traits in Mojave too so some won’t always have the round cheerios down the sides.

You can definitely see about having them shed tested for Mojave. Cinnamon is still unavailable though and I’ve really been waiting on that one for a super mojo I have that could possibly be cinny or super cinny underneath as well.

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