And now, the babies! These first two are the normals, but, I’m thinking of keeping them to peruse this ‘Dinker’ project, but be honest, do they look like something ‘different’?
Baby #1
Congratulations on some gorgeous babies! If I had to choose one to keep I could probably not! And the momma is outrageously lovely! Btw I’m like you! I don’t know what I would do without this community either!
To me the first two normals look pretty granite like to me, but I get that outcome sometimes as well if they are het pied, the influence makes the pattern a little different. I would think if yellow belly the first would be brighter, but that’s probably why @t_h_wyman said low expression for the first one. Either way can we get better belly shots of the first and second, to see if yb or maybe even some pied markers are there? Very pretty and interesting clutch!
All have shed out except the 5th one. Yes like @erie-herps said wild type. I always say normal myself too. And every time I see WT I think they just forgot the F on the end! But they are right, especially for breeders wild type sounds and sells better then just plain old normal.
I am not seeing any yb or pied markers in the first. The second no yb and I can’t see the belly close to the tail to be sure about pied tracks or ringer type markers. Try a pic like this for the pied markers and here is a pic of asphalt black pastel belly so you can see kinda what we are looking for.
No worries, they only move crazy when you try to get a picture:rofl: I am not seeing yb or any definite pied markers, now of course some het pieds don’t have any markers at all so there still is a chance they are het pied, and that means that could be the reason they look granite like. Now granite can have lots of types and meanings, these could be genetic co-dominant dinker type granite stuff from the male, it could be more polygenic granite like my female has. She has the slightly busy, freckled look inside her side patterns, and doesn’t or has never produced a super form and only occasionally a baby will come out granite like her. Yours are cool because they have the flecking in the pattern, some spots on the head, and the pattern is connected in some places and I saw even a floating pattern on the second, also the alien head type pattern is either absent or just weird! Bottom line is the father could have passed some kind of genetic granite type of mutation to them, or it still may be a het pied influence. If it interests you you could dink around with them, but unless you prove it out to be a co-dominant with a visual super form, money wise it doesn’t make a lot of sense to keep them. Not that you have to follow the money, do what makes you happy! interesting looking bps though!
I actually prefer it because I feel it more encompasses the that there is high variation “in the wild” and helps temper the “My ‘normal’ has this one freckle that is different so it is a morph”
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Just WT based on these. Though with the granitey-ness that Bane mentioned. May be genetic, may just be normal variation
But they are right, especially for breeders wild type sounds and sells better then just plain old normal.
interesting looking bps though!
