Hey everyone. I have a male that I bought as a Lilly White, and I bred him to a female Capp in the hopes of making frapps. They have had two clutches where the eggs fully develop then die, and upon cutting open and seeing the geckos they have all been Capps. I just hatched two successfully yesterday and today and they’re both Capps as well. I think the dead ones are because they are super Capps. Would anyone be able to help ID if the father is Frapp or just Lilly? (These are a little older pictures but he looks the same)
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Going to tag @ghoulishcresties for you, but as far as I’m aware Lily White is the one with a lethal super, not Capp. Also, I suggest if you’re having issues with animal IDs that you consider waiting until you’ve developed more skill and confidence to move forward with breeding projects to avoid further losses.
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Capp is also a lethal super, they just degrade over time rather than straight out the egg unfortunately. So if they were supers that would not be the reason they died in the egg at least, but it is still very much frowned upon to intentionally breed for them.
That being said, the gecko in the photos does not look frapp to me, the head stamp, the base, and the orange don’t fit the usual look.
Also, you would know for sure if they were supers, as supers hatch all black/dark with a weird leathery, translucent look to them. They look a bit like underdeveloped babies, but much darker. Maybe the babies you cut out were just not fully developed? Most babies from almost-fully developed eggs look kind of funky, so they could easily be confused for different morphs, as the pigment is the last to fully set in.
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How old is pair and weight? Any pics of mum?
Any pics of babies? The supers also? (Mels).
Picture is a lilly imo also, and not a frap.
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Yeah it just happens sometimes, for some reason a lot of people have been struggling this season though… It could also be due to incubation issues, temp fluctuations can really mess up the eggs. Other possible reasons are the mother’s diet, and the parents simply just not being compatible. First-timers also sometimes have lower hatch rates, not always though.
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Do you have photos of the female? If she is a frap, and not a capp, then the problem is still a lily white super being the reason they die in egg.
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