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Does he look like a fire orange dream because after talking some more with the owner on morphmarket I learned he did not produce this snake and doesn’t know who did I just want to make sure I’m getting what I’m buying

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Can you take a picture of the last third of it’s body, side and belly?

The issue with buying an animal with unknown genetics is while it’s fine if you want a good looking pet as a building foundation for a breeding program it can be problematic.

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I can try to get some more pictures from the seller but those are the only ones I have at the moment

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Head shot would help as well. Trusting the seller and not knowing anything else - I’d say yes it could be a fire OD

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@ballpythons9 @stewart_reptiles @eaglereptiles
Any ideas if it really is a fire orange dream

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Looks like a fire orange dream to me.

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Ok thank you

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Fire is a awkward one for me.

Just from these pictures I would say no. Only because usually fires have a light patch around the centre of their heads, where as this one seems to have the opposite. I could be wrong though, the OD could dissolve that marker. :man_shrugging:

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What would you say it is then

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Possibly OD vanilla.

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I’ve seen other OD fires with the same type of headstamp.

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My Mojave has a dark spot like that on her head but I just thought she hurt her head at somepoint

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Well I have sadly since pulled my deposit on him

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There is so much variation in each and every gene that sometimes it impossible to tell even when you know the pairing.

As for vanilla I would say the same thing, they usually have a light “V” or Micky mouse shaped head stamp.

There is more experienced people on here who’s word I would take over my own though :blush:

I believe @wreckroomsnakes would be able to help out here aswel.

If you don’t mind me asking, how come you withdrew the deposit?

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I have since canceled that withdraw

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Yeah i would lean more toward vanilla than fire on this one. It is missing that “typical” od fire headstamp at least from what tell on these pics.

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I just dont know if I should risk it because I want a od fire not a od vanilla

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To be honest i would pass and go for something that is exactly what you are looking for without a question on the genetics in the mix. Especially if you are looking for something that is going to be part of a breeding foundation

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Ok thank you very much that’s all I needed to know, this is my first time purchasing off morphmarket

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