How’s it going guys, new to the forum, not to MM though. I had picked up some cresties not too long ago. The darker one is male, but the brother one is either female or too young to tell. I was thinking a Dalmatian cross of some sort for both at first, but I don’t think there are enough spots. The orange is developing a few more since I’ve had it, but 
. Also thought maybe Tiger cross for orange and maybe Fire cross for darker? Just been trying to figure it out. Any insight would help, TIA. Also, I only have 2 geckos pictured, I just took a few too many lol
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First looks to be a yellow “brindlequin” flame with dal spots, the other looks to be a dark phantom dalmatian.
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Nah I definitely see it being orange not yellow in my opinion. Oranges are brighter in my experience when they are young and many slowly lighten up as they age. It looks like an orange starting to lighten up to me.
Dalmatian is a gene that can be as little as two spots and still be able to pass that to offspring when paired with a partner with 0 spots. Dal just refers to having spots in general so even just having two spots denotes the “dalmatian spotting” description.
Actually this kid looks like my orange potato I started with. Nowadays she looks like a yellow.
Your’s definitely has some orange cream in the dorsal though.
Edit: I was answering for the first gecko pictured. The second one which I failed to see at first is great but I’m waffling on what the base colors are. It looks somewhat fired down.
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wouldn’t be surprised it if fades, it is very normal for normal yellow-bases to look very orange as juvies. Like this one
Most oranges that stayed orange ive hatched were much darker as babies/juvies.
I would be very surprised if it stayed orange, but who knows 
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Do you know if the first gecko’s (orange/yellow) head pattern makes a difference for any reason? Its got a faint three stripe pattern going from left to right across top of head. But they are becoming more defined over time.
As for the phantom, he’s almost a weird try color, hes the one pictured in my hand, but thats with flash on. idk if any of that makes a difference too. he is actually alot grayer when fired up.
He definitely has and orange and a lighter color to highlight, like yellow, maybe “cream” idk. But hes always SO bright and loves to be social. His patterns are super detailedalready for as young as he is. Cant wait to see what pops more as he gets older.
The “dalmation” gene i thought was basically; dalmation-around 50 spots, super-around 100, and anything with only a few spots would be considered “with dal spots”? Like not as high in value type of thing?
Loving that orange potato btw, but that lilly 
The second guy is bit more fired down when i get em out. Hes not the most social reptile for humans, so i assume that has something to do w it. hes only fired down while being held, not while in his enclosure and no problems with other gecko that ive noticed.
This guy here, has patterning on head similar to mine. and yeah, im eager to see this one grow and develop more. Although he was my second choice when i picked them out and up, im growing more fond of him simply due to the bright colors and social traits. He loves to be out and held, and will just melt. Loves to climb and hang out on you. My other guy loves to run from you while trying to grab em, and constantly is being “walked” on my hands. but i have to walk em fast enough or he proceeds to jump to whatever is in front of him lol. he likes to be petted a certain type of way, but if im not doing that, he has a hard time relaxing and staying in one place.
A photo in more natural lighting would definitely help, but a lot of dark phantoms have this kind of faded orange pattern, and it looks like that’s what’s going on in your guy, rather than actual orange pattern.
As for the dalmatian trait, the way to distinguish them that you mention is a bit outdated. Since they’re virtually the same genetically, it usually has more to do with the overall expression. Like, a gecko that has maybe 40 large nice spots would still be considered a dalmatian, or even a super dalmatian, because of how nicely it expresses. Whereas another with 100 tiny spots that you barely notice would be considered “with dal spots”. So whether a dalmatian is high value depends more on the expression, and whether or not it’s a harlequin or a phantom, than how many it has.
As for the head pattern, his head stamp doesn’t look out of the ordinary to me personally, so i don’t think it makes a difference unfortunately. Some of them develop more interesting head stamps as they grow though, so maybe he’ll end up with an interesting look to this head pattern.
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