Reread the post. The breeder definitely said it is het desert ghost.
It said
For some reason so many people keep stopping normal reading after seeing the “or” they’re not indicating the breeder said “pastel vanilla” OR “fire het DG”. They’re saying
Pastel vanilla OR fire het dg. Literally no different than saying pastel vanilla/fire het dg.
It’s very odd to write it that way when using a variety of different traits. If it was written as “pastel or fire het DG” then it would make plenty sense. Writing it with two traits first actually gives the sentence two different interpretations. Both interpretations are grammatically correct but in this case would rely on tone of voice. Therefore if it was spoken like this in person it would make perfect sense but when written only really makes perfect sense to the writer.
Op is a new snake owner. They likely are not familiar with having them listed as fire/vanilla on ads. They simply heard the breeder say ‘fire or vanilla’. You don’t usually say ‘fire slash vanilla’
Also. There currently is no test available for vanilla, fire or pastel with RGI. I’m waiting on it for when it drops because I have a crystal I need tested for both fire and pastel.
The part I think is/has been confusing people (me included at first) is that “a”. If it said pastel vanilla or fire het dg then it would be a bit less confusing. But that is just me and my brain works weird
That is actually really interesting I did not know they didn’t have those. I get pastel as generally unless you have a lot of genes in a snake pastel is pretty easy to spot. Fire and vanilla are always so hard to see in babies though so I am surprised they don’t have that yet. And I just used traits as an example. Generally writing anything like that is weird in my personal opinion. Like take colors for example, if I wrote that something was blue and red or blue, black and white it just doesn’t sound right. It would have to be written with some extra commas instead of the word and to make sense. I’m not saying anything against OP, it definitely makes total sense when you’re the one writing it (I know because I do it sometimes too), just not when you’re reading it.
Sorry for the confusion English is not my first language!
I meant to say:
Option 1 > pastel vanilla
Option 2 > Fire het DG
I just took the information from the certificate from the breeder, I didn’t think for a second it could mean pastel vanilla/fire het DG. Which would make a lot more sense (also in Dutch as I’m from Holland) - adding the slash.
However!! I’m very thankful for your help, insights, and time to help me ID my baby boy. I’m just one month on this wonderful journey and I’m looking forward to learn as he grows. I chose him because he stood out to me, I wasn’t even looking for a snake I went to a spiritual fair and there was a reptile expo in de adjacent hall.
I went there out of curiosity and two weeks later I purchased him haha funny how things work!
Ah, so we all had a little bit of confusion going around then! Hahah.
And don’t worry about the English, it confuses native speakers at times too.
Including the parents info is the best thing you can do in a situation like this and also really good on the breeder’s part. That’s what helped us figure out the problem so quickly.
The genes can be really neat to learn about. What’s handy is there’s the ‘morphipedia’ here that gives info on most of the currently established genes. There’s also a lot of info on the issues that can happen with some genes as well, which is also really good to know before considering breeding.
The most important part of this is that he also looks like a healthy little guy and you’re happy with him. =)
You have officially fallen into the reptile and specifically ball python trap, congrats. I know a few people that after buying one owned an unholy amount of ball pythons and bred their own mice and rats for food. All of the ball pythons they owned were normals too, they just loved them so much. So you have now fallen into the trap, I give you until the next reptile expo email you get before you buy another
@nathan441 that is so true (for a lot of us here!). If you get any other snakes, @miekz , we would love to see photos!
So I wonder what the actual % of those of us using this forum actually bought 1 reptile and still have just that 1 reptile? And of those who bought/adopted at least 1 more reptile afterwards, HOW MANY more are we talking?
My first was actually my 2 toads but after them I have gotten… frantically spends 5 minutes trying to figure it out …let’s just go with too many . I gave up trying to figure it out.
@caron I was smiling as I was typing out the question, (thinking of you, ma’am!) and how many others who have a marvelous menagerie such as you have…and then I want to see that data tables split into keepers like us, breeders, then by reptile type(s), gender, age group, by country, US region…and I just got a LITTLE too excited about data for a moment
Well… I started with my first ever ball python. Then a got two more about a year later. Two normals and one pastel (didn’t care to breed just loved em). Obviously got a couple red tails and bred them because I wanted something bigger and more menacing. Then a dwarf boa because I couldn’t fit another massive 6 foot enclosure. After that I got some leopard geckos because they literally permanently smile. Still have my first ever ball python and leopards. The Leo’s are about 12 years old and the BP is maybe 20 something at least. Then I got some crested geckos because they also have a smiley skull structure. After that I got back into ball pythons and got some more. Got a few veiled chameleons and tree frogs. Rescued a painted turtle with a missing leg. Then got even more ball pythons at my last expo. And here we are… a dumb amount of reptiles that take up my entire life and eliminate the need for a wallet because I’m constantly broke lmfao.
Sorry I didn’t got any update so I wasn’t aware of your comments.
I’m quite certain that I’m also infected with the reptile virus For now I just want to learn more about my BP. He just had his first shed and after that I transitioned him from f/t mice to f/t rats without any problem.
After his shed he became very social and even fell asleep on my lap while being sheltered by my hand (on top of him). He also asks for head rubs hahaha.
Fire Vanilla is an allelic combination, because of this, the mother will pass down fire OR vanilla to every baby she produces. It is nearly impossible to discern the two from each other, and the breeder knows this, so he meant to give you these 2 options.
Pastel Vanilla het DG
Pastel Fire het DG
Both look the same, but will interact differently with other genes when bred.
Nice snake! Hope this helps.