Got this guy from a local reptile expo, sold as a Pituophis Catenifer Catenifer, with no papers.
However, i dont think he looks like one.
And a guy who lives and herps alot where this species lives, says it’s not Catenifer Catenifer.
I would like to hear what you guys think.
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Beautiful animal! Congratulations on a great find! I’m tagging @eorr53 Eric. He should be able to assist!
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It looks like pituophis melanoleucus melanoleucus - Northern Pine Snake. Definitely not P.c. catenifer - Pacific Gopher.
Do you have any pics top down in good lighting with out hands obstructing the view, that you can share?
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Thank you very much, that helps alot! I got this picture, is it good enough? Otherwise i can take another.
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Kind of. I was looking for a full body shot so I could see the saddle count. It might be just a northern pine but something about the look of it is giving me hybrid, or ssp cross, vibes.
Okay thanks, i hope he is not a cross. I will get another picture Wednesday when he has digested his food.
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He may not be. They can be pretty variable. With out any history on the animal there is really no way to tell for sure. They intergrade naturally with p.m. mugitis where their ranges meet in SC.