Hey everyone. I am potentially going to buy a gecko that is listed as possible Capp and was wondering if I could get some help determining it. I have attached the baby, mother and father. Thank you
I think it looks promising, however unfortunately capp is pretty much impossible to confirm just by looking at a photo, since other phenotypes look pretty much the same, and some capp combos look like other non-capp combos. Determining if something is a capp has a lot to do with how it progresses as well. If the seller listed it as a possible from a proven capp, it’s likely because it doesn’t look quite like the other capps they’ve hatched, but still has some markers
If you dedice to get it, you’d want to breed it to a lilly white to get a more solid answer. Super capps aren’t viable so make sure to avoid other potential/proven capps😊
I don’t see Cap myself but unless proven out you never know these days.
Looks like a Harley partial pin Dalmatian hiding by pic though. X
Also going to assume that dad’s been ‘proven’ as a cap?
Yes the dad has been “Proven” to be a Capp. My understanding is that would make any of his kids Capps right?
No each kid would have 50/50 chance of being capp - what is known as a capp is the het version of the trait with super capps being the homozygous version
I agree that it doesn’t look too be a cap, but could be het. I also agree, since the dads proven, babies will have 50 50 chance to be cap. But your need to breed to prove
I thought capp didn’t have hets? How could it be het capp?
A trait can either be heterozygous or homozygous, so all traits have hets - what we know as a capp is the het version, so it’s a bit redundant to say het cap, but not technically wrong Empty Back, Dalmatian and Whitewall/Whiteout are all visual but people will still sometimes say for example het EB to emphasize that it isn’t the full version
Yeah I guess I shouldn’t of used the term het… But that’s how my brain processes it lol
I get that, honestly i think it’s much easier to grasp if you think of all the traits as hets and hzgs - makes it easier to predict the potential outcome of a breeding if you know that het means 50/50 and hzg means 100% for example; ofc that’s a bit of an oversimplification, but still, i think it helps
Yeah i get it, its just confusing that it works like that. Like some combos hets don’t do anything, but like with Capp, a super capp is a melanistic (I think.)
It was thought to be at first but as they grew they realised that it isn’t really a melanistic so it’s just called a super capp nowadays - het just means that it has one copy of the gene nothing more; if the gene is a simple dominant het and hzg will look the same (like yellow base or pinstriping), if it’s an incomplete dominant het and hzg will be different (like capp, LW and whiteout/whitewall, hzg form is also known as the super form or complete form), and if it’s recessive then het won’t be visible only hzg will