Hi All!
Hoping to get some assistance with ID on this girl. Pairing was Pastel Redstripe Spotnose YB Clown x Dragon Fly (parent photos attached: image credit akreptiles).
She was sold as Pastel Spotnose Fire YB Het Clown, possible Red stripe. Is there any indication that this girl has RS? My eye is not well trained enough to pick this out and maybe someone with more experience can chime in. Also, would like to confirm YB in her. Glad to add more photos if needed. Thanks!
Nice snake! I can’t tell you much, I personally don’t see red stripe, I would expect the sides to be a little more whacked out and the color to be slightly different. But with fire, and spot nose that enhance the color as well as make the pattern busier and changed I couldn’t say for sure. I know for yellow belly we would need belly pics to look for pixelization coming up to the sides of the snake, I do see a few burnt orange type flames but nothing very substantial in those pics. Hopefully someone with more red stripe experience can chime in.
Thank you! Here’s some more photos of her sides and my best attempts at getting her belly (hard to do with one hand haha). I’ll try getting some better ones when I can get someone to help me.
As @banereptiles notes, the presence of some of these genes complicate the ID
That said, I do think RS is present. However, I personally doubt that YB is present in that animal
Thank you. I’m thinking YB may be an incorrect ID as well, as there isn’t a whole lot of checkering along the edges of the belly. Will try adding better pictures later.
If you don’t mind me asking, what makes you lean towards it having RS? This would be helpful for myself if I decide to pair her in the future. Appreciate your thoughts!
I would listen to @t_h_wyman about the red stripe, I don’t have much experience in that morph. I do not see yellow belly markers on those new pics either.
If this helps anyone, here are some without RS (or YB). To me, she has much more reddish hues along the sides compared to many of these.
It is more a “feel” kind of thing.
Spots tend to have a bit of a dorsal stripe but when combined with Fire and/or Pastel that tends to get broken up. Yours has a strong stripe so that would lend to RS pulling it back.
Additionally, the shape of the laterals is a touch more rounded off than Spot (Spot tends to make them “blocky”) which, again, is a trait that RS can add
And lastly, yes, that sort of umber undertone that you noted
