So say I was growing my collection fast, and I leave a expo with like 3-4 Bps. I live in a 2 bedroom apartment one room is my room and the other is the snake room. How would I go about quarantine can they not be in the same room at all? if so where would be ideal place to quarantine multiple snakes if I don’t have 3-4 rooms?
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I would put them in the living room or your room for 3-6 months minimum. Priority should always be placed on the health and safety of the animals, so if you can’t properly quarantine animals, I would stop buying more. Why do you have to “grow your collection fast”?
I mean this kindly, but between this and your other post about feeding more often to get them to breeding weight faster, I’m a little worried that emphasis is being placed on acquiring a bunch of animals and jumping into breeding as soon as possible rather than taking some time to really perfect your husbandry and getting established.
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I’m not breeding. Maybe in few years when I know more about it. But no I don’t want breed right now. I was saying what he mentioned in the video. I didn’t start feeding to get them to breed faster I starting feeding 5 days instead of 7 because you can, but after you explaining it I will return to once a week. But I can properly quarantine them I was just asking can you place quarantined animals in one room or does each quartiened animal have to be seperate from each other? In other words could I have like a quarantine rack in my room? Armally just purchase one snake at a time, but I’ve talked to breeders and they will give deals if you get more than one so it was just a consideration I was taking when I talked about 3 or 4. I’m new to this stuff and I love and spend a lot of time and money on the snakes, but the reason for me getting more is its an addiction lol
Just growing the collection. I also have 2 big aquariums I take care of animals and its a passion the snakes is just the newest hobby so I’m still trying to learn a lot of stuff.
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Also whenever I post something I’m just asking before I do it because like you said if I can’t quarantine why do it? I won’t do it if I can’t ill
Just go to one at a time, but I don’t understand how some people get so many snakes like I talked to a breeder at the expo this past weekend 80 snakes in his first year of collecting how the in F can you quarantine that many snakes obviously not at once but still That’s a lot at a time there only 12 months in a year that’s 6 almost 7 snakes a month.
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-They absolutely need to be in a different room.
-You will also need a full set of equipment that will not be moved from room to room.
-You need to make sure you are properly hand washing after doing any handling in the quarantine room. Ideally, you will finish everything you need to with the other animals first in the other room and the QT is the last thing to be done. Chlorhexidine scrub works well for hand washing. You can always have some hand sanitizer before you go in to the QT room as well if you want.
-if you have multiple animals in QT and one gets sick, every animal’s qt timer gets reset as they have potentially been exposed prior to you seeing the other become ill. Do not move them out until all animals have been healthy for the full term. Personally I run 90 day QTs
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You can’t unless you have a big space with multiple rooms.
They may have potentially purchased a collection from someone that had been leaving the hobby. Or possibly purchased a large group from a single breeder…
But honestly anyone saying they started that quickly in their first year is usually a red flag for me. If they were perhaps working with another species I might give a pass…but that’s rare. It seems like a lot of times this is the first reptile they’re breeding when I speak to them. X_x
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You hit it on the money! Will do, I was gonna get a quarantine rack and that just stay in my room! Then after they finish healthy with no problems move them to the rack in the snake room.
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Makes sense and do you quarantine every snake
You get? Say you got a snake from a very well known breeder like Kinova or Mike wilbanks whose snakes are very well taken care of, is it on the road and traveling that they can get sick or do they come sick from the breeder?
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I’ve honestly just QT’d every animal I pick up. (Even mammals)
In the case of reptiles, it’s just easier for me to establish a good maintenance routine for that particular animal and know the habits before just putting them in with everyone else. See how well they’re eating, how stools look and all that. Give them time to settle in.
Some people will trust big names. But there have been times that an animal can slip through and shipping or transitional stress may cause a simple common bacteria to become a full blown infection. And in that case the load out they are shedding can be infectious to even a healthy animal.
I think the only exception to my personal QT rule I made was one of the breeders I worked with and trusted enough to only QT for 45 days instead of my usual 90. And that was because it was a hatchling and I was getting a group from another breeder in a week to QT.
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I understand! I appreciate this little classroom
Lesson haha I really like this community you guys really help and give out information!
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You can certainly set up a quarantine room for all animals you’ll be quarantining. It isn’t necessary to have a separate room for each animal, but it is necessary to have a separate room with separate equipment, as @armiyana said.
Huge red flag to me unless they purchased an actual collection. Going gung ho, full tilt right off the bat usually means skipping or skimping on best practices for the animals. Gotta say that just because someone shows up at an expo and calls themself a breeder, maybe even has produced a bunch of babies and is active on social media, this doesn’t mean they actually know what they are doing. Sometimes they do, sometimes they don’t. If they said they started by buying 80 snakes their first year and didn’t explain all the reasons that was a bad idea, I’d be done taking their advice.
Yes. Doesn’t matter where they come from, doesn’t matter how inconvenient the timing. If I can’t do the quarantine, I don’t add the animal. It’s just not worth the risk.
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This may be an unpopular opinion, but I’m going to say that the more well-known/big the breeder you bought from is, the more important QT is. It is of course important for all new animals, but when it comes to disease risk - bigger breeders have less frequent eyes on their individual animals (because they have more animals to take care of) and also often have employees, which means that disease symptoms are more likely to be missed or not recorded. Also, because they have so many more animals, that’s that many more potential sources for illness. So all animals need to be quarantined, but I personally am less concerned about smaller breeders than I am about getting animals in for the big ones. For instance, I personally wouldn’t even consider buying from some large breeders unless they were okay with me testing for nidovirus and agreed to take the animal back if it was positive. (I know for a fact that there is one breeder that will not agree to this because I once asked, so as a result I will never buy from them, no matter how perfect the animal is for what I want).
Snakes can get sick if they’re packaged/shipped poorly, but what generally happens is that an animal already has an underlying sickness while with the breeder and the stress of shipping/being in a new home just brings symptoms out into the open.
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Facts ^^^ More people need to follow this thinking
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I gotcha. It does make sense that they would possibly be not as healthy as a smaller breeder.
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Agreed Agreed Agreed!!!
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