I think someone crushed one of my snakes last night while I was asleep she was a newborn and the only in her clutch that made it does anyone have any legal advice I’m not entirely sure what to do I’m not sure the police will run fingerprints I have her frozen in her enclosure
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What makes you think someone did this on purpose? Was there any way the snake could have gotten injured in its enclosure? As for the police, they absolutely will not run fingerprints on something like this. They probably wouldn’t be able to do much of anything as most of the time, snakes are considered property. Legally the most you could really do is try and report it to the police as animal cruelty (you’d need proof someone acted maliciously) otherwise civil or small claims court. Realistically, it’s unlikely you’ll get any sort of resolution, and court would require time and money that would likely be more than the animal was worth.
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I am sorry but @black_bird-43529 Blackbird, your post sounds totally bizarre. The whole idea of someone coming in your house and crushing your snake? While you slept?
How could you have/keep her frozen in her enclosure? Would not she have to be kept in your freezer??
I don’t mean to sound rude but I am having a hard time trying to imagine this scenario….
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I moved back into my mom’s house last month My step brother came over and he’s had a history of animal abuse Im pretty sure it was him but I can’t guarantee it they’re in a different room than my room so I wasn’t aware of who was coming and going. She was the snake that I pulled out to show him because I was kind of hoping he changed from his past cuz that was years ago but the snakes were completely fine she was happy healthy moving and all of that and suddenly in the morning looks like she was crushed the day he came by. She was a newborn she’s itty bitty I have her in a six quart at the moment because she was not accepting food so I was hoping the smaller enclosure would encourage her to eat I’ve got a big deep freezer down in the basement I just stuck the enclosure in the basket in the deep freezer it’s where I put my mice it’s not touching anything except for the wire rack it’s on
*I put the whole enclosure in the freezer incase there’s prints on it mine should be the only other fingerprints
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She was very active the day before literally no health issues he also told me that he wouldn’t be handling any snake that he couldn’t trust to not bite him cuz he’s scared of being bit that is the only snake that I told him doesn’t bite people I told him I’ve got other nippy snakes so he just has to be careful and to not open the bins that I don’t open which I didn’t open any other than her enclosure.
I also moved all of my smaller snakes into the room im staying in for now I’m supposed to move out next week I can’t move the rest in due to space issues and the ones left are a lot more intimidating (larger and a lot are bity I’m the only one supposed to handle/pick them up because of that)
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She’s got finger marks on her and a pinched area that looks like a nail crushed a vessel under her belly scutes as well as her heart looks like it’s ruptured she was laying on top of her leaves nothing was on top of her she there wasn’t anything too heavy in there either it’s just a basic setup water bowl one side small hide on the other there’s no way it was unintentional and there’s nothing in there that could hurt her I have pictures but I’m not sure I can post em she doesn’t have any open wounds but there are sorta red bits on her scales that could be from her soil but none of my other babies on the same substrate have the coloration on their scales
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That’s a shame.
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Well id hope someone who’s having a kid would change let alone it’s been 13 years and hes supposedly on some meds for his issues there’s a lot more at play just needed to know if there was legal steps I could take I am going to take more steps to prevent this I know this house has electrical issues so I didn’t want extra steps to get to them in the case of a fire but their all getting locked and/or moved to the room I’m sleeping in.
Also your being nosey your never gonna have the full picture ty for blaming me for this when I was already doing that if I could I would have never introduced them but he woulda gone in there unsupervised if I didn’t and that wasn’t gonna happen and again I thought he was outa state when I went to sleep.
I don’t think the meds are working 100%.
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Yea ik that now
I can’t help but agree with Caron here. And because of the situation’s context police won’t do much aside from look at you weird. As I ever so elegantly put it every time, this is a baby in a construction zone situation. DONT LEAVE BABIES IN CONSTRUCTION ZONES. Don’t leave an animal, a fellow living thing, in a not even potential, but guaranteed dangerous environment
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I’m at my mom’s house I have zero control of who comes here I thought it was safe enough they’ve been here before just fine I’ve had no issues until the other day if I knew he was coming by I wouldn’t have moved in but it’s been 13 years and I’ve been here for a month there was no heads up the rest of the people here are safe not sure how I could have assumed that somebody I haven’t seen in 13 years who is now taking medicine for their issues would not only suddenly pop by but also hurt one of my reptiles his history is back when he was seven That’s quite a young age and I haven’t heard anything about him since.
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The only thing I can say about this is to just get you and your animals out of there as soon as you can.
Keep your animals where you sleep, do not leave them unsupervised if you can help it. Or just keep your step-brother supervised, buy a monitoring camera… it would help a ton in your situation. Do not let him interact with any more of your animals at all, do not show him them or anything.
Thats unfortunately all I can say in this situation.
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He’s out of town now but I’ve moved the ones he’s most likely to be willing to even try n touch I told him they are bitty and I’m pretty sure that’s why he didn’t touch the others Ive been saving for a down payment and we had already found a apartment last week we were already trying to get out before this
*I’ve already moved them over to my room gonna work on trying to fit the enclosures today they’re in temp enclosures rn
Also noodle up top had answered my question I wasn’t sure because my police depo seems like they wouldn’t and google wouldn’t give me a straight answer on their legal responsibility in this situation and the only proof it was malicious was because my snake was crushed the night he left after I had gone to bed I was even up till midnight just wanted to clarify the situation a little I didn’t think the police would care about the situation they seem sketchy and fingerprints would be the only way to verify it was him
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Thank you
I assumed I probably wouldn’t because of lack of evidence but I’ll aquire some cameras for the room for even after I move out into my own place
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I’ll just say that I am so, so sorry for your loss—both of your snake and any remaining shreds of trust for your brother. What a tragedy for you and your whole family. Prayers for you that you’re able to pull things together from here and protect yourself and your animals from him.
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Thank you
I’m going to get them out of the situation and I appreciate the prayers
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I’m so sorry this happened.
Family is complicated. I have a few… let’s call them “wayward” family members myself. None with a history of abusing animals, but a couple have a history of abusing people. It’s hard, because you want to believe they can change, and you want to have a relationship with them. It can be really hard to know when it’s “safe” to give them a chance, and when it’s better to just put up walls and shut them out. It’s even harder when you’re in a situation where you’re forced to be around them. I totally empathize with the desire to extend that olive branch, and then only realizing in hindsight that it was a mistake.
I don’t think there’s much you can do legally, but I hope you and your animals can find a safer situation soon.
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Thank you it’s a mistake I’m not going to ever make again
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I’m sorry for your loss, @black_bird-43529. I hope you and your animals are soon in a safer situation. This sounds terrible. Prayers for all concerned.
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