Special gene specialists?

Looking for people who work w the special gene to help me on a tricky - and somewhat of a long backstory - clutch that I just hatched!!! They are below in a clutch pic but do have individual shots!

Pairing that started this was a super pastel mojo blackhead red gene ringer gene x black pastel yb
That produced an all grey snake
Took grey snake and bred to leopard poss spark
Took a baby from that clutch which we thought was a blackhead Leo black pastel and paired to a special and have the results below

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We would need the backstory to help lol. You obviously have some other genes in the mix! Looks like maybe blackhead? I work with special but admittedly mostly bel combos.

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Haha sorry I accidentally posted it before I finished! I updated it - blackhead is def in it!

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That bottom middle baby is :fire:

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Thank you!! Def some lookers in this clutch!!!

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The middle top one is really nice :+1: as well

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What was the other parent of the first clutch that produced a gray snake?

Special is a tough gene to identify, but I would imagine it would act like the other BEL genes and stripe out blackhead combos. If I had to place bets, the top middle and bottom two on the left have special, but with leopard mixed in that makes ID even harder.

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It is and it isn’t lol. Next to mojave it’s fairly easy to pick out. In my experiences outside of crystal stuff with the special gene it acts like a mild version of mojave in combos if that makes any sense. Also I’ve noticed special causes less dorsal striping then the other bel genes I have/worked with.

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The pairing that made the all grey snake is up there - super pastel mojo blackhead red gene ringer gene x black pastel yellowbelly

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Actually, the BlkPastel YB is missing from your above
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As far as IDs, I suspect that the entire top row carry Special as does the bottom right

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This is the all grey snake

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BlkPewter BH YB poss Ringer

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No Mojave you don’t think?

I think that does have ringer.

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Having seen a BlkPastel BH Mystic in the flesh and the near complete obliteration of the dorsal and lateral pattern, I am inclined to say no Mojave. I suppose it is possible that Pastel could bring those back, but I feel that would be an odd behaviour for Pastel to induce

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Awesome thank you so very much! That’s one part down to the puzzle lol

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Black head, black Pewter, Mojave.

Pic for ref.

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So it’s confirmed that he def carries Mojave - he was paired to a confusion (the grey snake) and produced this.

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I would definitely say so :ok_hand:t2: That looks like a blackhead Mojave

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