Trying to identify two ball python surrenders

[voueyy]

I got two bp surrenders one spider female and another male of which we are trying to identify for rehoming. We are not sure if the male is just a funky normal or is something else? As well as whether or not our spider has anything else visual mixed in.

[cosbornejr]

Bumblebee not spider and something in the Yellow Belly complex on the male

[saleengrinch]

@voueyy

We are not sure if the male is just a funky normal or is something else?

You have better pictures? He has something going on.

@cosbornejr

Bumblebee not spider

Bumblebee is pastel spider

[cosbornejr]

Right, but the poster said a Spider so I was saying it’s not just a spider

[saleengrinch]

Gotcha lol then we are in agreement on that one!

[cosbornejr]

Yes we are. Lol

[voueyy]

@saleengrinch

You have better pictures? He has something going on.

I don’t right now but I could get some later. Thinking of just a photo of him stretched out more?

[cosbornejr]

And shots of his sides and belly

[lumpy]

It looks like an aged bumblebee.

[khigg]

could be yellow bellyish markings where the pinky finger and ring finger are toward ventral scale

[ballornothing]

The other one (not the bumblebee) looks like it could ODYB

[ghoulishcresties]

I’d say pastel and bumblebee

[lumpy]

@ghoulishcresties

pastel

I agree, it look like a browned out pastel.

[ballornothing]

Definitely not single gene pastel. Saddle pattern resembles OD. Flaming looks YB.

Here is a mature pastel that has “browned out”

[t_h_wyman]

I would agree with YB and Bumblebee for IDs

[voueyy]

@saleengrinch

You have better pictures? He has something going on.

Here’s some more photos of the suspected YB

[kevin_ksk_royals]

Could be YB fire possibly.