We woke up this morning to a pleasant surprise! We found two babies had pipped over night. We opened the eggs up a little bit more and were surprised to find a mostly white snake.
The pairing was a red stripe cinnamon pastel pinstripe (red stripe pewter blast) to a lesser with possible other mystery genes (she was marked as a lesser when we got her, but she looks like she could have some other genes to her, see pictures).
As far as we know, the male doesn’t have any genes that should make a mostly white snake. It’s a bit early so the baby could develop more pattern (so far we’ve noticed a darker head and some faint stripes behind the eyes). What do you guys think?
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Until it emerges and either colors up or doesn’t it’s hard to speculate. Parthenogenesis seems most likely if you’re sure about the ID on the male. Do you know the pairing that produced the male?
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I unfortunately do not know what the pairing was on the male, I bought him from RL Exotics in 2019, and I did not think to ask
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I will add updated photos when they are out of the egg and when they have shead
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They would both be bels then. I don’t think its a partho personally.
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The parents are the top 2 images.
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The mom looks more like a mojave than a lesser to me personally.
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Second this^
There’s even a Mojave in the egg 🥲
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They would both be BELs if both were partho. Partho split clutches aren’t all that uncommon.
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Was this the ONLY male she was paired to? Was she paired the previous year?
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Both of these are not accurate. It is possible to have partho and not have both be BluELs. If the mother were just a simple Lesser (which I do not believe she is, more on that below) then she could also generate partho normals
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Correct. But also not what I think has occurred here
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All that out of the way… Mom looks to be a Lesser Pastel. If my assessment there is correct, then I believe your “white” snake is actually a SuperPewter Lesser Pin (possible RS). You can see that there is actually pattern and dorsal stripping that would support this ID
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Her first season only the one male
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As promised here are the out of egg photos, my camera washes out what little color that there is, from what I can see there is a dorsal stripe that is more white than the silver/violet on the rest of the body, there is also a faint gray shade in the first few inches of the neck.
Also included the sibling because why not.
will get photos post shed as soon as I am able, will also keep the thread updated if more color/pattern does start to show.
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The white snake will likely color up a bit. Most likely it is a multi gene combo with the pinstripe, lesser and pastel definitely in play. Here is a pic of a Mojave, Pinstripe Leopard, Pastel I hatched a couple years back. The first pic is just out of the egg and the second pic is a month or so later.
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Both babies post shed
The dark one I am pretty sure is red stripe lesser cinnamon
The one in question I think is pinstripe red stripe pastel lesser
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