This is Cyrene, my new gecko. I got her today and was wondering what everyone thinks of her morph. The breeder told me she’s a yellow tiger with frosting, and I think she has some dalmatian spots. She’s around a year and a half. Let me know if you need better pictures
Yellow flame/low expression harlequin partial pinstripe with visual tigering and dalmatian spots
Wait sorry. I thought you couldn’t get tigering on a harlequin. Do you mind explaining it to me?
So tigering is a trait that is fixed in the crested gecko population, meaning that every single gecko out there has it. Often times it isn’t visible as such, but it is part of what causes their pattern to align the way it does. In some geckos, the tiger-pattern is more visible and is expressed as those dark lines you see on your gecko. It seems to be especially common on yellow-based geckos, and on geckos with phantom influence, whether that be visual phantoms, or hets. Having visual tigering is also different from the tiger-morph, but a harlequin tiger is also a thing, though they’re usually quite difficult to tell from the usual phantom tiger
Extreme harlequin partial pin tiger with reverse pinning and dal spots.
IMO
Not a flame. Flames have dorsal markings of a high contrast colour that is different to rest of body, with no markings. They’re hard to Come by really. X
Extreme harlequin? I am confused lol
Yeah i agree, i don’t believe it is… Yellows and extremes can be hard to differentiate though, but this one definitely looks like a yellow - a good place to look is just above their front legs, as even the most extreme harlequins for some reason have no pattern there. Here’s an example from the pangea webpage Female Extreme Harlequin Crested Gecko | Pangea Reptile | Cr-2021 - Pangea Reptile LLC
It does have a funky dorsal, not usual for a flame/low expression harlequin, it looks like it might have what i’ve been referring to has “fade”, where the WP looks faded and not as solid as usual, but it is not a proven trait yet afaik
Some fight with tiger making the reverse pinning etc. it’s cool to see I will say! Had a few like it.
And like pangeas there.
Extremes vary ALOT. Another reason I love tigering also. Messes up a lot.
Some extremes also have so much patterning there’s hardly any base left, and with no pinning too, it looks insane. I have a couple here who I do wish stopped gaining pattern when younger as not much base left to see the lavender they are, still beautiful but shame
And the tiger in them also, the tiger in the dorsal of one disappeared as gained too much pattern
So low expression harlequin partial pinstripe with visual tigering and dalmatian spots? Would you call the white of the pinning frosting right?
Yup and yellow-based - Ive only ever heard frosting used to describe specs of white on their crests, but she looks like she’s possibly low expression of what ive been calling “fade”. It’s not something that is agreed upon in the hobby though, as it is not, afaik, something that has been really worked with as of yet.
Do mind explaining the “fade”? I was thinking of pairing her with Apollo (my other similar gecko I’ve posted before) but only later once she’s settled in
It’s what ive been calling the type of pattern that kind of looks like the pinstriping is fading into the dorsal, and kind of losing opacity, rather than being solid like usual. It’s something ive seen around, no clue how it works, whether it’s a trait on it’s own or a trait interaction
1 is a harlequin girl with that fadey pattern, 2 is a “normal” flame, and 3 is a normal harlequin
First one possibly, second one no imo the second one looks more like normal harley…But like i said, it’s not a “real” thing atm, just something ive been calling that expression😊
I get it! Was just trying to understand what you were meaning a bit more!