I had purchased a lace het orange ghost female from someone on morphmarket and spent 3 years raising it and had some of her hatchlings tested for lace and all came up negative so I tested her and she is now negative. I have tried to reach out to the seller with no reply, I am very disappointed in the seller especially for not replying to me, what is my recourse for this. Very disappointed.
There are 2 different lines of lace iirc, one is considered recessive and the other is an inc-doms.
The shed testing available is only for the inc-dom
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If yours is the recessive version ‘black lace’ it would not test the same.
Another could be ‘lace black back’ is actually HRA.
I’m not personally familiar with the genes so may not be able to offer much help on photos.
You can try contacting MorphMarket support regarding the issue if the breeder is still active on site.
Unfortunately things do happen at times.
I’m trying to see which ‘satin’ is potentially in my collection. Because the person I took a group from didn’t know which line the animal was from.
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Not black lace it was sold to me as co-dom lace. I understand it is hard to ID the main thing I am disappointed about is the lack of communication/accountability from breeder.
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How do you expect them to be accountable for this? What are you looking for as far as communication? The breeder has zero obligation to you in this instance, you have no recourse. MorphMarket’s default store policy covers this:
Essentially, it was up to you to verify the animal you bought contained the genes in question. You were fine with the animal for three years, until breeding and testing showed it did not carry that gene. If you were to have had any chance of recourse, you’d have needed to raise a dispute right after receiving the animal. I wholly understand your disappointment that the female you purchased did not contain the gene you thought it did, but in this case there is nothing further to be done.
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I did not read that thanks for educating me. I as a seller would not have handled it this way though and I do sell on this platform. I guess my standards are higher than most.
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Unfortunately, as Jess note, I do not think there is much recourse for you because it has been three years since you purchased
That said, I also fully understand your frustration over the situation and also that the seller is completely failing to respond. From a personal standpoint, I find that behaviour reprehensible and extremely unprofessional
I cannot guarantee it will get you anywhere, but you can try reaching out to the MM customer support team via the support email and see if they can try to get you some traction on getting a reply from the seller. But again, as Jess noted, they will likely not be able to moderate any dispute about the genetics issue
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Three years ago lace wasn’t testable and is often hard to see in animals. It’s likely that the seller/breeder made a “best guess” and missed. It happens. Another possibility is that it’s a line of lace that’s just slightly outside the test parameters at RGI and their testing isn’t picking it up. I have a bumblebee het puzzle that I know 100% came from a puzzle male, I’ve seen the sire, yet none of his offspring nor he tested for puzzle. I have a disco male that produced a disco inferno, clearly a disco fire combo, yet the disco inferno does not test for disco. There is a line of black pastel that they know is out there but their test doesn’t pick it up, there’s a line of cypress that isn’t being picked up by their tests, it’s because they had clear and obvious lessers that failed the test that they determined that the original butter mutation was a separate mutation. When they say testing is 99.5% accurate, what they mean is for known lines of the genetic mutation being tested for. Did you know that there are two yellow bellies so they have to run two different genetic tests when you ask for YB test? So, it’s not likely you were intentionally ripped off.
However, unless that breeder has gone out of business and just does not check their MM mail any more, there really isn’t any excuse for not responding to your query. As a breeder, myself, I’d want to share photos of the lace that produced it or at least get that animal tested and share those results with you.
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Post a photo of the lace het orange ghost female. I’d like to see it. Maybe a couple of photos focusing a lot on side pattern especially down around the belly.