Will be shed tested for Mojave and het Black Ax because of the overall color. But pretty cool!
Edit; RGI Shed test results came back negative for both Mojave/Black Ax on 7/4/24
So my third clutch for 2024 was another worlds first pairing in the US, and I accidentally produced a truly rare specimen; a Androgenesis baby.
The pairing was Banana Mojave Pinstripe het Monsoon x Super Twister
The Androgenesis baby turned out to be a Super Banana Monsoon, and after talking to Dave Green throughout the week from the egg cutting to it crawling out - he agrees it is a Banana Monsoon
Here is the hatchling (will add photos once it sheds)
After this clutch, I cut two additional clutches with no survivors. All the babies were incredibly kinked, and had to be culled (if not already dead). So, because of this I had to investigate my cserpents incubator, and turns out the incubator heat tape has 95% failed.
Last season, at the end, my last three clutches came out kinked and most were culled. Turns out the fans stopped working. So, we replaced the fans and this season had started off well. Had no issues with my first two/three clutches. Then after the kinked fourth/fifth egg cutting I temp tested the incubator, and thats when we learned that the heat tape had failed. I reached out to the owner of cserpents for help/replacement of the heat tape, and he did respond he would send replacement, but hasn’t responded since. So, Saturday 6/29/24 I reached out to Wilbanks and purchased one of the new Wilbanks incubators to give it a go.
I currently have two clutches in my cserpents incubator that are doing fine. The top row is the only row with functioning heat and is holding the correct temp, but the others are unusable. I have 4 girls who will be laying any day now, so I will be probably doing maternal incubation if it happens before the new incubator is delivered.
From what I understand it is more or less male parthenogenesis where the baby gets it genetics 100% from its father. I think (I haven’t looked this up in a while) it happens when an egg cell is “empty” of genetic info so for the baby to be made the genetic info from the sperm duplicates which results in the full set of genes; or at least something like that.
@t_h_wyman do you think you could try and explain it?
I am sorry Anna, but this animal cannot be an andro baby because for andro to have occurred it would have to be a SuperBanana, which it clearly is not
I suspect you have a Banana Mojave Pin Twister “het” Monsoon with the known penetrance on the Monsoon being enhanced somewhat by the presence of both Pin and Twister
How it was broken down to me was that not all genes of the father need to be passed on and not all will be the double copy to make the super. I didn’t think that was correct either, but that is what a geneticist told me. I think RGI just needs to gets Justin’s blessing and release the monsoon test they have in the vault.
If the sperm is carrying the Banana gene and if the entire genetic payload is doubled then the Banana gene would be doubled and so you would get a SuperBanana
edit from Anna: i just want my monsoon test to solve this
I will say after going to see what a Super Banana looks like vs Dave’s just normal Banana Monsoon, I could see this being a Super Banana simply based on the color of the head. I can’t wait to see what it looks like after it sheds, and to see if the color holds up.
For those that haven’t seen Dave’s Banana Monsoon, this is what it looks like (and you can see that the headstamp coloring is very different between the two):
Before / After shed -
edit; @t_h_wyman was correct and it is a super banana monsoon based on re-reading the other geneticist’s messages again and realizing I misread what was sent
Dave has several banana monsoons that also have that dorsal stripe without Mojave. The snake isn’t gonna go anywhere for the time being anyways. I want to shed test it for when Monsoon gets released, and then add Mojave to the panel.
Booth? Cause that’s the guy I was talking about all this time, and then I misread his messages lmao. He asked me to send in sheds of the whole clutch and parents that I plan to do once I have them
Not yet, I usually pop them after their first shed!
Seems like this mutation (monsoon) has the potential to behave more like a dominant mutation vs recessive in some combinations. Play by the rules monsoon!
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i just want my monsoon test to solve this 
