Cypress Honey black pastel Hypo Clutch ID help

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Pairing was Black Pastel Hypo x Cypress Honey Pastel het Hypo. Wondering if any one sees Honey in these two?

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We’re going to need some additional pictures to work this one out, but I think @t_h_wyman is your best bet for guesses on this pairing.

Here’s a Guide in asking for Morph Identification Help

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A couple more pics of them.

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Likely on the first, the second I think you are going to have to prove out via breeding as both the Hypo and the washout effect of BlkPewter are going to mask your ability to tell

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Awesome, Thank you for the help. Its much appreciated!