Need a little help please”I’m confused “

Hi all
Here we go then, I’m confused I put the parents into the genetics calculator Mojave 100% double het dreamsicle X Mojave 100% double het dreamsicle “these were produced by me so I know genetics are 100%” and every offspring mentions that if I hit a super Mojave it would have blue eyes, it never calculates the chance of the lavender albino being in there ie a cherry bomb , now this is where I could use some help​:grimacing::+1: both last year and this year I’ve produced an all white snake with red eye’s so definitely a cherry bomb but other than shed testing how would I know that it’s not a super Mojave dreamsicle??? I’m rolling with if I have hit the all gene animal it should have red eyes either way of being just a cherry bomb or super Mojave dreamsicle!!! Last years animal is pure white every where no sign of a grey ish head or any yellowing down the dorsal, this years baby has just hatched out and hasent even shed yet so is kinda up in the air for now :see_no_evil::+1: any help in this matter would b greatly appreciated plus has any of you guys n girls ever produced combo??? Many thanks lee


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Technically, a Cherrybomb is an Albino BluEL not a Lav BluEL

There is a known synergy between Pied and BluEL where the combination results in microphthalmia. So it will be very easy to know if you hit a Lav Pied BluEL

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Thanks for your reply, I was on the understanding you could make a cherry bomb with either regular albino or lavender albino ??? As for the rest of your reply I’m not advanced enough in genetics to understand what you mean :joy::joy::joy::joy:
microphthalmia and synergies any chance of an explanation for a dummy :joy::joy::+1:

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Luckily, super mojo albinos are much less prone than lesser/mojo or super lesser albinos to have microphthalmia. So I agree with Travis that if one of the white ones were to have small eyes it is the most likely to be pied albino bel.

This one is much harder to tell and needs a good eye or camera… But you can also look really closely at the body color. In a BEL pied there should still be areas that don’t quite match up. 2 different shades of white on one snake. If you look really closely at this photo of my mojo lesser het pied you can see the pied ringer on his tail when he was a hatchling

Otherwise when they shed you can try sending off any suspicious ones to test for pied with RGI.
Your sibling from last clutch looks to be BEL Dreamcicle

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Thanks for help I’m starting to understand it now a bit better :+1: last years baby dose have small eyes and this years baby has normal size eyes :+1::+1: or would go as far to say slightly bigger eyes :+1: he’s in blue at the moment and the dark spot on his nose is from food :joy: last years baby :+1:


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The original CherryBomb animal was an Albino SuperMojo. Following the loose naming convention of the hobby, that then means just the Albino morph and not the Lav morph

As an analogy, “Pompeii” is a specific combo: Clown BlkPastel Redstripe Spotnose Yellowbelly. By contrast, just because BlkPastel and Mahogany have a roughly similar phenotype, if you made a Clown Mahogany Redstripe Spotnose Yellowbelly, you would not call that combo a “Pompeii” as well, right?
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In broad terms, synergy is where a combination of two (or more) things has a larger impact that either thing alone. In this specific case, both the Pied mutation and the BluEL mutation have genetic-level impact on the development of the eye. Each mutation alone has a very minor effect but when both are present there is a major impact resulting in a gross phenotype - microphthalmia, or “small eye” syndrome, where the eyes are underdeveloped and smaller than normal. A very good example of this can be seen here in this thread. The eyes on the hatchling are very obviously smaller than a normal eye should be:

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Once again I’ve learnt something new about this fantastic hobby and it’s community thanks for the explanation and analogy when I read it as you explained it I at least understood it. and has definitely helped identify my new hatchling as now being just a super Mojave Lav :+1: and last years baby as the all gene animal :+1: appreciate your time and effort in helping understand the intricacies of all these parts of genetics I’ve never came across :+1: once again thank you very much lee.

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