My first ever clutch

Maybe it would not hurt to take the log and everything else out of the tub except the snake and the prey so there will be no distractions……

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Actually, this is the opposite of what should be done. You don’t want to keep altering the enclosure. That’s why @caryl suggested placing the empty deli in the bin so he can get used to it, as opposed to taking all the decor out. The more the main enclosure is messed with, the less secure BamBam is going to feel.

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Yes @noodlehaus That is so correct! I just saw Bam Bam playing in his log so I figured he was getting distracted! Lol! These kids these kids! The deli cup in the tub is the best plan as @caryl suggested! Thanks for the heads ups @noodlehaus! :+1:

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Not much to update today but pebbles did leave me with a poop to clean up lol. Just shows they digested their food well!

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You are correct, poop is a good thing! Hooray for poop! :poop: :clap:

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Feeding again now on boiled pinkies. Both of them are in their tubs with their food and a blanket over them. Hopefully pebbkes takes their second meal and bambam takes their first! If bambam doesn’t ill try scenting the pinky.

Edit: So far pebbles has eaten but bambam still hasnt eaten the pinky head. Ill re-warm it and leave it in there overnight so hopefully they eat!

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Fingers crossed for both Pebs and Bams! :crossed_fingers::pray::+1:

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Hopefully bambam starts to eat like their sibling! Pebbles has has 2 meals now.

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Hooray for Pebbles! Fingers crossed for Bambam.

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Unfortunately bambam didny eat overnigjt so ill try scented pinkies next. Hopefully they start eating soon and catch up with pebbles!

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Aww, I’m sorry. It’s so frustrating to have one who is a challenge to get started. Have you already tried boiled, or washed with blue dish detergent and not touched by humans afterward?

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Ive been trying warmed and bolied. I havent tried using dish detergent yet so ill try that next.

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That little stinker! He is definitely trying your patience! I never thought about baby corns being so difficult to get to eat! :smiling_imp:

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It’s worth a try. I admit that when I had heard about this, I thought that it made sense that trying to remove some scent, human or otherwise, might help. I don’t use the blue dish soaps (something about them bothers my skin) so I tried washing pinks with regular hand soap. That didn’t work. At some desperate point with a challenging baby, I bought a bottle of blue dish soap. It worked. Some say that it’s more than just washing off other scents; there’s apparently something appealing about traces of the scent of blue dish soap. I don’t know about that, but it’s certainly worth a try.

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Some of them can be quite a challenge. Years ago, there were certain morphs noted to be hard to start on mice. They insisted on lizards. This was especially the case with some morphs which originated in the Keys or South Florida. In nature, those corns would likely have been eating lizards or frogs, and that’s what they were “programmed” to want. That was many years and generations ago. Breeders have worked to infuse different genetics into these morphs and one effect is that they’re less likely to be hard to get started feeding. But it still happens sometimes, in all morphs.

When they’re hard to start, sometimes it seems to be that they just don’t recognize the prey as food. @solarserpents once put it very well. She said, “no matter how hungry I was, I wouldn’t eat a tire.” (Thanks, Olivia!) That’s where scenting the prey becomes useful.

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Since I fed the yesterday ill probably try again Tuesday. Hopefully bambam finally eats using this method. also could feeding just the pinky head be putting them off food? If so would it be better to find the smallest pinky possible in the bag and offer that one?

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im pretty sure the old school bloodreds were ones like this too. I read somewhere that people had to take and hatch the eggs rather than the adults and that the babies would only eat lizards.

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I would try the smallest pinky you can find, the problem is that he started out so small that may still be too big. But I would offer maybe he will surprise you, or at least entice him more. After a few more weeks you could probably think about asking everyone their preferred assist feeding methods. Hopefully it won’t come to that, but keep it in mind just in case. Fingers crossed for you🤞

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@shadowspiderjack I’m kind of thinking along the same lines as @banereptiles about assist feeding ONLY if the little guy still refuses after a few more weeks. I also agree that maybe you could try the very smallest pink you can find.

Of course there is the dish soap washing or scenting with something etc to try……

Others may disagree but he is just so tiny to begin with.

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You are correct. Bloodreds back in the day were a primary morph I was thinking of. This food preference makes sense when one thinks about what’s available in South Florida for baby snakes to hunt. Thankfully, it’s not such an issue any more.

Impossible to say. Maybe? It’s really hard to say what will work for any individual. If you can find a pinky which is tiny enough that it’s appropriate for him, there’s no harm in trying it. Hopefully he’ll eat without your needing to resort to assist feeding, but we can provide support there too if necessary. We’re all pulling for you and
Bambam. Fingers :crossed_fingers: :pray:

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