Pied breeding and choosing a good first investment

I’m glad I stumbled upon this my question is regardless of the research that everyone needs to be doing for their selves first off are pied ball pythons high in demands I know they hold their value because they’re considered a rarity in the ball python trade but what would be a good investment in the future when it comes to breeding my female to a male ball python I was thinking about a lemon blast, AXANTHIC, or another pied male to my pied female when shes of age she only 2 moths old. The breeder I got her from said she is a visual homozygous and maybe you can help me understand the genetic traits here from my research it says that 2 dominant genes have to be present in order to get a visual homozygous Offspring is that correct for my understanding? And in order to get more dominant traits you have to have a codominant which would be a better choice than any kind of recessive gene is that correct? Because it’ll be more of a expensive selling option when it comes to a choice of doing so?

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First off, they are not a rarity in the ball python market. Maybe besides Clown, Pieds are the most popular morph.
Solid investment for breeding even with a normal Pied.

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If she is your pet imo keep her as a pet. Breeding snakes has its risks. Plus a clutch of baby snakes can be overwhelming for some. If your goal is to breed i would suggest another peid male with a dominant or co dominant trait. Like a banana pie or leopard pied.

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I agree 100 pied are not rare at all.

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There is a lot to unpack in that comment.

@mnroyals hit the nail on the head. Pied are actually the second most available on the market besides Pastels.

Piebald is a recessive gene, meaning both parents will need to be either visual piebald or het piebald.

Visual = 2 copies of the recessive gene, looks like a piebald.
Het = 1 copy of the recessive gene, doesn’t look like a piebald.

Dominant is the opposite to recessive, in that you only need one copy of the gene to pass it to offspring.

For example:

Piebald (rec) X Enchi (Dom) = Enchi het piebald (visual Enchi, non visual piebald)

This sentence confuses my brain :joy:. There are a few terms used incorrectly by the hobby that can lead to mass confusion. Here is a guide that will help you learn more about that … https://www.morphmarket.com/blog/2018/05/04/codominant-or-incomplete-dominant/

As for my personal opinion on what to breed her with, I would go for a Leopard Enchi Pied. But definitely do a lot more reading on here before you dive right in.

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I am just going to repeat Deb here because everything you ask would be answered by:

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This information is all correct on basic genetics. Spot on!

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Pied are not rare however they are popular always have been and always will be they have that wow factor even among with non snake people, and as any recessive they hold their value better.

Before breeding you need to ask yourself the right questions and there are many that I have covered before.

The big first question is why do you want to breed? Do you simply make something you like but can’t afford, do you want a collection that pays for itself, do you want to make extra money (vacation, gifts etc) or do you want to make a living?

Regardless of what you want to do there is one common theme and it’s work with what YOU like because at the end of the day YOU will be caring for those animals, now that being said while it is all that matter if your goal is to only make something you really want and then stop if you want to have a collection that pays for itself or make extra money or make a living at it, what you like will have to me what is in demand and is selling, so getting a good grasp on the market among many other things will be essential.

Now this is from the market standpoint obviously before I would recommend anyone to understand the market I would first recommend them to get a good grasp on genetics (research, research, research)

People can still be successful in this industry (regardless of what they consider success) if they treat it seriously and understand what they need to do in order to remain successful in the long run, you constantly have to work at it, you can’t just buy two animals and think you will be successful for the next 15 years with the same 2 animals.

Now if you already have a female pied I would recommend (in a year) to look for a pied combo male, making more Pied is ok but why just do more of the same? Remember they are popular but there are plenty of them on the market as well. Pied Combos have come down in price and this is a great opportunity for new breeders. You can also work toward longer terms projects such as double recessive but it will take you years between making your own Double Het raising them and pairing them and selling what you don’t need when it comes to Double Hets or Hets is not easy when you are new.

So again it’s about what your goals are and what your market will be (local, shows, online), the key is to have a passion a goal and a vision and do a lot of research.

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