Spayed female, gravid 🙃 (Ovarian Remnant Syndrome)

[solarserpents]

She looks absolutely great!

[noodlehaus]

Aside the scars, you’d never know she ever had problems. One very content, well-fed girl.

[banereptiles]

She looks fantastic! Will probably still get better with some more sheds! I wonder if some vitamin e or something rubbed on especially right before shed may help the shed not get stuck at all around it? That snake is so lucky to have you take care of it, nice full recovery for her!

[noodlehaus]

I will definitely be trying different non-toxic topicals to see if they can help the shed problems. She’s my baby, I’ve definitely been hover-y with her and it has worked in my favor. Glad to be able to relax now and spoil her rotten, hopefully for many, many years to come.

[caryl]

She does indeed look fantastic!

@noodlehaus

I’ve definitely been hover-y with her and it has worked in my favor.

I’d say that your being hover-y with her has assuredly worked in Celia’s favor, too! Goodness knows how things might have gone had she had a less observant human. It’s grand to see her thriving. Kudos!

[noodlehaus]

I never wanted to see this thread again and yet…I checked on Celia tonight. She was under her hide and had made a nest area of sorts, pushed all the substrate away.

…Y’all she’s gravid AGAIN, I swear!

[indiflare]

WHAT?!
Okay, I’m sorry, she’s been spayed, TWICE, and is gravid again? How does this even happen?

[noodlehaus]

I truly have no clue and I’m absolutely losing my mind at this point. I’ll be calling her vet immediately in the morning for an emergency visit (they have like, one same-day appointment per day), and asking if her surgeon is the one working if I can talk to her ahead of time/get her in any earlier because this is…Something I’ve never heard of in my life.

[indiflare]

That’s just crazy! I remember reading through all of this back when it happened, and you would think that the second time would get whatever was still working?

[noodlehaus]

[noodlehaus]

This is the area in range of her old surgical scars. There’s two very suspiciously “egg-like” lumps and she’s acting like a female getting ready to lay.

[solarserpents]

At this point, I don’t know if I’d trust using that same vet!

[noodlehaus]

I’d probably agree if it were a mammal, but honestly considering how little we know about ovarian remnant in reptiles since a spay is rare in and of itself…I’m inclined to give them the benefit of the doubt and use this as a learning experience. I may, however, also contact the local veterinary college about her as well.

[armiyana]

I’m so sorry you’re going through this… again. I saw this in my unread and was like, “No… wtf??”

This saga does sound interesting enough to consult the college. Like it would be wild to know what the extent of possible regeneration of the tissue could be or how much more tissue would need to be removed before the body doesn’t recognize it as reproductive anymore.

[athleticshoelace]

WHAT… HOW… CELIA!! How are you doing that?

[noodlehaus]

Ms. Celia is seeing her vet in 2.5 hours, I’ll have more information after that. At this point I’d give anything to be wrong about her symptoms, but the familiar sinking feeling in my gut refuses to leave.

[noodlehaus]

Vet’s office called back, bit of a scheduling mixup so her appointment actually isn’t until this afternoon. I may just go and drop her off because I have a bit of a packed schedule today and they love here there.

[akmorphs]

I hope they are able to fix the problem!

[caryl]

Those lumps do look unhappily suspicious. This is just too crazy!

@noodlehaus

considering how little we know about ovarian remnant in reptiles since a spay is rare in and of itself…I’m inclined to give them the benefit of the doubt and use this as a learning experience. I may, however, also contact the local veterinary college about her as well.

Gotta say, if there’s a veterinary college local to you, I would try to have Celia seen there. Considering how little we know about this, as you say, maybe there’s someone who knows more at the college. Last year was already a huge learning experience for you, I’m sure! She’s certainly far from the usual patient. I’ll be saying more prayers for Celia. And for you, Jess.

[noodlehaus]

Just got back from dropping her off, suffice to say the tech saw me and gave me the, “Oh no, not again” look. He had been the one to hand her off to me to take home after her last surgery and was scrubbed in for it. Did the usual check in, he gave her a feel and agrees she feels gravid. Obviously nothing is technically “official” until the vet sees her, but…It’s obvious.

Here’s the not so fun part: this a, “Prepare for the worst, hope for the best” scenario. She’s had two previous surgeries and I was told there were adhesions noted when they went in the second time. This has been nagging at the back of my mind since last night, exactly how much is too much to put her through? At what point is the scar tissue going to start impacting her mobility and quality of life?

Today just really, really sucks.